I would agree, but I wouldn't be sincere. It is a Bend, but it results from a sawing motion, not a biceps curl motion.
How do the Hands get UP to Top in this saw and fan Punch Elbow full power motion you describe? The "bend" or "curl" is the Pickup, no? Sawing is linear and behind the golfer, no up, to my mind. I get it for Push Basic, that is a "saw" if you will, but not Punch especially as the elbow approaches a position touching the side of the body, mere inches from Pitch Elbow. Its a continuum with extremes and middle ground again. Not just black or white but sometimes grey. Mainly various shades of grey, actually.
How do the Hands get UP to Top in this saw and fan Punch Elbow full power motion you describe? The "bend" or "curl" is the Pickup, no?
No. The Bend, or curl, or saw, sets the Alignment of the Right Forearm. The Right Deltoids Muscle Raises your Left and Right Arm to the Top of the Swing. The Reason a Hitter Saws from a Forward Press Address, is to get the Right Elbow back to the Right Side by the end of Start-up. It's Only 3-4" of Saw from a Forward Press Position. I'm going to say this and you're going to scream. The Start-up and Backswing Motion of the Right Arm for a Hitter that Starts in the Forward Press Position, is like pulling the cord to start a Lawnmower. Pull and lift merge into a single motion from a pull to a lateral arm raise as your Hands move from Forward Press to about even with you Right Ear. Single Wrist Action Lawnmower.
As soon as your Right Elbow gets even with your right side, your Right Forearm is at 90 degrees to your shoulders as your Right Deltoids Raise the Power Package to the Top. Perfect Hitter Alignments.
Most of the Problems you are seeing here are caused by mixing a Shoulder Turn Takeaway with Hitters Extensor Action Start-up. His Forearm becomes too vertical at the Top which causes his Forearm to come in above plane and too far forward of his Side at Release. It is simply a matter of more right deltoids muscle and less shoulder turn motion.
The Power Package Motion during the Downstroke is identical for Hitters and Swingers. Notice the above Golfers Elbow Bend at the Top Of the Swing. It's about 90 degrees. For a Swinger, this is too much Bend. So at Release, the Right Forearm would be above Plane, as in the photo. Unbend it 5 degrees at the Top, and if this was a swinger, the Right Forearm would be On-Plane with the Elbow location in the photo. But the Guy above wants to Hit. So his Elbow Bend is good at 90 Degrees but his Elbow should be Pointing behind him more at the Top of the Swing. That would Angle his Forearm more at the Top, but also at Release, because his Elbow would be at the back of his side and his Forearm would be On-Plane. In the Photo above, his Right Elbow is too much in front of his right hip by a couple of inches. He also loses a slight amount of waist bend at Release. But if you add 2" for Elbow Location and 2" for Waist bend, his Forearm would be a little below plane but then he could add a little more elbow bend at the Top, say another 10 degrees and put him at 80 degrees which would give him more elbow bend at Impact and/or a longer Piston/Fanning Action for Release. It's simply a matter of Elbow Location at the Top of the Swing.....
Understanding Alignments: Bend your right arm at 90 degrees and put your elbow at your side. Keeping the Bend at 90 degrees, move your elbow a little behind you to a little in front of the right hip. Notice how elbow location changes the Plane Angle of the Right Forearm?
The Elbow Location at Release is the Same Elbow Location that it was at the Top of the Swing, but the Power Package has moved. It pivoted down from the Shoulder joints. The Power Package Changed Locations but the Elbow has the identical alignments to the Power Package that it did at the Top of the Swing. TGM.
QUOTE]Sawing is linear and behind the golfer, no up, to my mind.[/quote]
Right...But you're not going past the Right Side. BUT, your Elbow should go to the Back of the Right Side. The Deltoids have already raised the Power Package as your Right Elbow gets to the Back of your side.
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I get it for Push Basic, that is a "saw" if you will, but not Punch especially as the elbow approaches a position touching the side of the body, mere inches from Pitch Elbow. Its a continuum with extremes and middle ground again. Not just black or white but sometimes grey. Mainly various shades of grey, actually.
This is nowhere near a Push Basic Elbow Location.
At Release, the Punch is a Punch with Fanning motion. You and I both agree on that. The Elbow Returns to the Side during the Downstroke and the Right Forearm is practically perpendicular to your Shoulders.
Lukes elbow is not held in place there like a swinger employing Pitch Elbow, but that is no saw or lawn mower or whatever.
I only do this for the sake of my fellow Hitters who like me might have wrongly thought that Hitting was a Push Basic like linear......ok sawing move for longer shots too. OK for short shots if you want, so choose, but there is no UP to a saw and a fan and so Puch Basic is not recommended for full power, longer shots that require you to get to Top.
This is great Daryl, makes me think and learn but I got to go play right now. Ill try em both for ya.
Lukes elbow is not held in place there like a swinger employing Pitch Elbow, but that is no saw or lawn mower or whatever.
I said; If. I know its not a saw. Because he turns his shoulders during Start-up.
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I only do this for the sake of my fellow Hitters who like me might have wrongly thought that Hitting was a Push Basic like linear......ok sawing move for longer shots too. OK for short shots if you want, so choose, but there is no UP to a saw and a fan and so Puch Basic is not recommended for full power, longer shots that require you to get to Top.
Punch and Push are very different. You should Punch. I agree.
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