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Old 01-17-2008, 07:11 PM
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Where did I say that any Golfer that Cocks his Right Wrist is doomed?

Where did I say that only Golfers that Don’t Cock their Right Wrist can become great Ball Strikers?



If all of the Pro’s in the world Cock their Right Wrist during the Backswing and Uncock it during the Downswing; does that prove it mechanically perfect? LOL. No it doesn’t. But it proves that it’s possible to Cock your Right Wrist and win a lot of money without perfect mechanics.

If you copy a Pro today...are you willing to change your swing when he does?
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Please look at the picture of sergio at release from down the line . . . those alignments are PERFECT . .. The shaft is right up the plane of the right forearm . .. There's no way that those alignments are straight out of the textbook. He has satisfied the flying wedge alignments perfectly.
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Hello all,

Just some thoughts on sequenced vs simultaneous release.

My understanding (was) that release motions are independent of hinge action or grip type.

Sequenced is sequenced because the swinger loads the left wrist mainly via centrifugal force, and also dumps it the same - so, the throwout causes the left wrist to uncock first (accumulator #2), then it is transferred to the rolling left wrist (accumulator #3). Of course, there is some overlap, but the main point is the left wrist uncocks first.

For simultaneous, the accumulators are being (and specifically the right elbow) are being release via right forearm thrust - triceps muscularly, hence, the simultaneous release - no true throwout. The uncock and roll occur at the same time.

Hope that made sense.

Good discussion....just wanted to throwout (no pun intended) my take.

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Old 01-18-2008, 01:54 AM
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Please look at the picture of sergio at release from down the line . . . those alignments are PERFECT . .. The shaft is right up the plane of the right forearm . .. There's no way that those alignments are straight out of the textbook. He has satisfied the flying wedge alignments perfectly.
Dear Bucket,
The Clubshaft is On Plane. I agree. But it's too far Up Plane because his Right Wrist is Cocked. His impact needs some really critical timing. He has the talent and dedication and is able to make it work.
However, if he Leveled his Right Wrist, he could Horizonal hinge. Would he benefit? I'm not qualified to say. But Yoda did that for me and my accuracy is awesome. I can Draw, Fade or hit the ball Straight at will. Every time. My distances increased only slightly but my yardages are always the same. I no longer hit one drive 235 yards and one drive 245.
I always thought that I had a Sequenced Release. I didn't. But now I do. I hit 90% of the fairways at 265 yards Swinging out of my shoes. If I Cock my Right Wrist, I hit 50% of the fairways. Precision.
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:44 AM
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Daryl,
I was not being critical. I merely asked the question because I am interested in what Tiger does in his swing.
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Dear Bucket,
The Clubshaft is On Plane. I agree. But it's too far Up Plane because his Right Wrist is Cocked. His impact needs some really critical timing. He has the talent and dedication and is able to make it work.
However, if he Leveled his Right Wrist, he could Horizonal hinge. Would he benefit? I'm not qualified to say. But Yoda did that for me and my accuracy is awesome. I can Draw, Fade or hit the ball Straight at will. Every time. My distances increased only slightly but my yardages are always the same. I no longer hit one drive 235 yards and one drive 245.
I always thought that I had a Sequenced Release. I didn't. But now I do. I hit 90% of the fairways at 265 yards Swinging out of my shoes. If I Cock my Right Wrist, I hit 50% of the fairways. Precision.

I don't know boss . . . I'm having a hard time with that right wrist being cocked . . . it's REALLY bent but I don't think cocked . . . that Right Forearm Flying Wedge is PICTURE PERFECT . . . if it was cocked it'd be all outta whack.

Can you post a picture of somebody that HAS a Level Right Wrist in your eyes?
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These three cats look pretty similar . . .
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Old 01-18-2008, 08:50 PM
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These three cats look pretty similar . . .
Dear Mr. Bucket,

You’re just too much. I honestly look forward to meeting you. We’re going to have a blast playing golf together. We’ll be in the front cart, and have someone driving the Drink Cart close behind.

You’re going to get me in a lot of hot water for those pics. But, what the hell. I’ll bite. We’re among friends.

First of all, of the three golfers pictured, only the White haired guy with the blue shirt is going to Horizontal hinge from a Sequenced Release. The guy in the left picture wearing a white shirt and white cap, is Swinging with an Angle Hinge. The young pup in the picture below, is Swinging with an angled hinge.

The guy in the blue shirt is almost perfect. Obviously he is well schooled and trained in the art. His Right Wrist is only slightly Cocked which is probably only due to the tremendous stress he’s putting on his #3 pressure point forced on him by the pure power of his pivot but also because he's loading the secondary Lever through the Primary Lever. He would be better off just Loading the Secondary Lever, but he looks like he knows what he's doing. His Clubshaft is bent like a banana as he Straight Line Thrusts Downplane. His Right Knee remains bent allowing for more than adequate Hip Action which I’m sure is soon to follow. He must hit the ball a long way and straight.

The Guy in the White cap and shirt has obviously Cocked his Right Wrist. Unfortunately, his Clubshaft and Clubhead are lagging too far back and behind him. That’s too bad because when you Cock both Wrists that much, you’re forced to Simultaneous Release. He looks like he is about to Horizontal Hinge because he has loaded the Secondary Lever. That's interesting. A Simultaneous Release with the Secondary Lever Loaded and Horizontal Hinging. Or, a Sequenced Release with Angled Hinging. Wow. Thats going to take a lot of practice before he wins any money. Timing. His Pivot looks really nice but a little soft and mostly motion because he ran out of right leg and can’t supply a good deal of Hip Action. I think that if he really works hard, he can become a golfing great. But it will take a lot of practice to harness that swing and it depends on how well he can putt.

The Young pup in the lower picture has a similar situation to the guy in the white shirt. Notice that his Flat Left Wrist has his Clubface looking at the ball. An easy sign of Simultaneous Release brought about by Cocking both Wrists. His Clubshaft and Clubhead have lagged too far back and behind and he is also forced to Angle Hinge because you Cannot Uncock to Level and then immediately Roll the Right Wrist. BUT you can Uncock the Left Wrist and Roll a Level Right Wrist in sequence.

PS. Mr. Bucket. When we play Golf together, I would consider you a Southern Gentleman if at the end of our game, you would promptly pay me your losses, and pay with cash.

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Old 01-18-2008, 09:04 PM
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Daryl,
I was not being critical. I merely asked the question because I am interested in what Tiger does in his swing.
You have every right to be critical. Please be as critical as you can. If you have any doubts, you are being honest. It’s one of the many reasons this Website is so great.

One of Tigers greatest repeated comments about his swing is that he likes to take it back and keep it wide. I’ve heard him say it dozens of time. HK would say that Tiger keeps his Right Wrist Level during the Backswing.
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Old 01-19-2008, 02:31 AM
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D,

You are alright with me! Someday we shall tee it up together . . .

This one of the few times anybody's ever accused me of being a gentleman!

You are welcome in NC anytime . . . pack your Level Right Wrist and your runnin' shoes just incase of banjo music.
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Old 01-19-2008, 06:06 AM
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I am.......um........amazed.

Wow.

All three, to me, seem to be using Centrifugal Force....

just a guess....

I got more, its coming, trust me.

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