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Old 01-22-2008, 03:44 PM
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Dear Mr. Bucket,
I sincerely agree with you. My hat is off to you for your insightful summary.
My comment about you and I hitting so many fairways and greens on a 5000 yard course may have been a little exaggerated but I figured we could use 3 woods and wedges. That’s only a 275 yards per hole average and I thought that it would be equivalent to a pro playing on 7000 yards. They practice more than us. Please reconsider your comment. I'm sure we could whip any two of them if we played from 5000 and they played from 7000. I'll bet a piece of chicken on it.

Ya know, it would make for very good TV ratings. Better than "The Big Break"! Each week we could feature a new couple of Pros (We'll get the ones that didn't make the cut that weekend). We'll have to come up with a name for the show!!!!!! If they win, then their money goes to Charity, if we win, the crowd gets a Chicken Dinner too!!!

Could you imagine how funny that show could be. I bet Nike would sponsor it. And KFC for sure and a beer company.

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Dear Mr. Bucket,
I sincerely agree with you. My hat is off to you for your insightful summary.
My comment about you and I hitting so many fairways and greens on a 5000 yard course may have been a little exaggerated but I figured we could use 3 woods and wedges. That’s only a 275 yards per hole average and I thought that it would be equivalent to a pro playing on 7000 yards. They practice more than us. Please reconsider your comment. I'm sure we could whip any two of them if we played from 5000 and they played from 7000. I'll bet a piece of chicken on it.

Ya know, it would make for very good TV ratings. Better than "The Big Break"! Each week we could feature a new couple of Pros (We'll get the ones that didn't make the cut that weekend). We'll have to come up with a name for the show!!!!!! If they win, then their money goes to Charity, if we win, the crowd gets a Chicken Dinner too!!!

Could you imagine how funny that show could be. I bet Nike would sponsor it. And KFC for sure and a beer company.
I don't know! Would it be our best ball? If it's mono y mono . . . I'd need some strokes I gotta think.

I'll go play my course from the Bagger tees (woops I mean Chick Tees) and report back. I bet I can't break par. My lowest round ever is 73.

You seem a bit more refined than me . . . I doubt Nike'd do much with me . . . they don't make no husky sized pants and nobody'd want to see me in one of them tight stretchy shirts like Tiger sports. There'd be a whole lotta shakin' goin' on.

I may could get a hook up from Converse or Dickies or GrrrrAnimals something like that.
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Old 01-22-2008, 04:51 PM
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I don't know! Would it be our best ball? If it's mono y mono . . . I'd need some strokes I gotta think.

I'll go play my course from the Bagger tees (woops I mean Chick Tees) and report back. I bet I can't break par. My lowest round ever is 73.

You seem a bit more refined than me . . . I doubt Nike'd do much with me . . . they don't make no husky sized pants and nobody'd want to see me in one of them tight stretchy shirts like Tiger sports. There'd be a whole lotta shakin' goin' on.

I may could get a hook up from Converse or Dickies or GrrrrAnimals something like that.
We'll do fine. Maybe we can get Ted and Yoda on the bags just to be sure. Nike makes all sizes. It's not a beauty contest, low score wins. We'll put it in the rules.
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We'll do fine. Maybe we can get Ted and Yoda on the bags just to be sure. Nike makes all sizes. It's not a beauty contest, low score wins. We'll put it in the rules.
I think they'd beat us like we owed 'em money.
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I think they'd beat us like we owed 'em money.
Ok. How about we get two Yankee Pro golfers? Would you do it then?
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Old 01-22-2008, 08:30 PM
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I think they'd beat us like we owed 'em money.
How about Yankee Pro Golfers that are retiring from the Senior Tour?
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How about Yankee Pro Golfers that are retiring from the Senior Tour?
We'd get beat like the base drum on the Led Zepplin reunion tour.
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A little insight
I'm with Daryl and Bucket on this one.

Daryl 1. Best greens in reg for the year was 71%. "Moe, who has the best swing on tour?" "Well, there aren't any are there," Moe Norman. The big boys rarely hit every green for the day. The rank and file of the tour chase their balls rather than telling them where to go. If you can handle the heat, playing good 2 or 3 weeks a year is enough to keep your card. They don't get payed for GIR. It's a math contest.

Bucket 1. Alignments? These guys are like infielders who zip the ball across the diamond moving away from the target and off the wrong foot. TALENT.

Bucket 2. I have not seen the bucket play...but I'm not taking him from any tee against two tour players from any tee. (Well...there might be a bet in there somehow).

Daryl 2. When ever I am asked about how to get good at golf, the answer no one wants to hear is, "Quit your job and play against better players than you for more money than you can afford to bet." You'll either get better fast or quit.

Back to the match. I've wagered more than a few dollars against a PGA Tour winner getting 2 a side. The guy played like Tiger Woods at Augusta down the stretch every time I had him down. I didn't lose every time, just nearly. You would have a better chance beating one of them on an off day than hoping they both were off. It would be a stroll in the park for them pressure wise, and maybe the most pressure you have ever felt on the course.

Bucket says Sergio averages 69. Check the slope. Most of the guys are plus 6. Let me know when you get to plus 6 at 5000 yards.

If we can get those tees spread out enough (I fly it right around 260 and my boy hits it an easy 50 by me) and the fairways grown over and the sand really soft and the greens really slow, bumpy, and grainy....take all the skill out of it.....we might find a bet.
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I'm confident after being at Brian Gay's house that I could SMOKE him in a dougnut eatin' contest. That's the only time I'd bet for me in anything against a Tour Player. I think I could maybe get a push against Tom Kite in basketball.

Oh . . . and I think I could get my pants on and shoes tied faster than Calc.
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Dear Phillygolf,

Release Motions 4-D-0. Acc #2 is a Wrist Motion, #3 is Hand Motion. Sequencing the Uncocking of the Left Wrist (Wrist Motion) then Rolling the Clubface (Hands). Forgive me for stating the obvious, but if the Clubface is already square to the Plane Line (Facing the Ball during the Release) Then the Hands have been Rolled prior to (#3 before #2) Uncocking the Left Wrist. Possibly, your confusion comes from thinking that individual Wrist and hand motions and Pivot are the same thing. Allow me to explain. Stand erect with your right arm extended in front (palm facing the target and thumb pointed toward the Sky) of you at shoulder height and parallel to the ground. Move your arm and hand to the right until it is parallel to the base line of the inclined Plane. Your Hand is Turned because of the Pivot. Step 2, Stand erect with your right arm extended in front of you at shoulder height and parallel to the ground and Turn your Hand so that the Palm is facing up (Thumb is pointing Right). Move your arm and Hand to the right until it is parallel to the base line of the inclined plane. Your hand is Turned and “Turned”. Turned because the Pivot turned it and “Turned” because your hand rotated palm up. The first demonstration is what Hitters do, the second is what Swingers do (Standard Wrist Action). The Second way needs a Sequenced Release. The First example demonstrates that Pivot is Rolling the Hands while at the same Time (Simultaneously) the Left Wrist (and only the Left Wrist) is Uncocking.

I don’t know of any Pros that Keep their Right Wrist Level throughout the Swing. Who am I to say they are wrong? I’m not telling them how to earn a living. Please see JR1 Acquired Motion Video. Please notice that JR is hitting Beautiful and graceful pitch shots with only a five yard spread at 75 yards. Awesome for sure. He Cocks his Right Wrist on every shot. I’m not saying he should change. However, if you compare the trajectory of each shot, each shot is slightly different and some of them very different. But the result is still extremely impressive. He is using hand-eye coordination and Timing the Impact. Highly developed. His apparent Roll after Impact is due to the Pivot. JR is one of the finest Golfers in the World and to ever play the game.

My wife has dragged me around the Country on weekend trips for twenty-Five years. That means that I arrive at the Golf courses at 6:00 am with no-one to play with. Invariably, someone in the Proshop or bag room agrees to play with me. Almost all of the time, after the round, the conversation goes like this “How long have you been a scratch Golfer?”, he replies “before I started working here, I couldn’t play very well, but I go out with the guys almost every day after work and I hit balls all the time and I’ve gotten really better.” I reply “Oh, how long have you worked here?” and he replies, “two years” and I reply “Oh”. I should write a book on the subject but it would only be one page long.

Yoda, I promise not to make an issue of this during the next Seminar. I’ll shut up. I won’t be argumentative. You have the floor. It’s your Seminar.
Darly,

Great post!

However....is not 4-D-0, per TGM ( and I could be wrong - again - have no book, etc) Release Motions - meaning, accumulator #2 and #3?

If so, I do not believe (could be wrong), Homer never refers to clubface in this regard.

Again, going on memory, but....clubface is irrelevant.

Ok, now.....I dont know about turned, not turned, etc.

But...

Sequenced release occurs because of centrifugal force.

Simultaneous as a result of thrust.

So - please, lets forget about clubface, or pivot driven, etc.

......

Point is, sequenced and simultaneous are different. Why?

Cent force and thrust.

Love the enthusiasm,

but my friend,

no confusion here.

Patrick
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