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Old 07-07-2009, 05:18 AM
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Left Arm rotation Question
Please bear with me if this question has been dealt with in a previous post,not sure how to word heading in "search" to find out,so I will ask directly.
Where does the L/arm actually "rotate" from?,in my attempts to maintain FLW(R/hander),I have found myself rotating my L/forearm,but get the feeling that it is not correct,should my L/arm be rotating from the shoulder and not the elbow?,both can be done ,butthe resultant finishes are quite different...What is right?....Thanks in advance

Where in the book is this covered...thanks
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Old 07-07-2009, 06:10 AM
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Great Question.

Do you mean "From what joint does the Left Arm Roll when the #3 Accumulator Rolls in a Sequenced Release?

If so, then, "The Hinge". Your Left Shoulder.

The Primary Lever Rolls by Rolling the Right Forearm Flying Wedge. The Right Forearm Flying Wedge Rolls when it passes to the Left of the Right Elbow during Release.

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Old 07-07-2009, 06:29 AM
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Thanks for quick reply Daryl,do you see my reason for my asking this question. For quite some time I have felt that I had to roll L/forearm at the elbow,it seems to create a fault in the follow through which a lot of golfers may not recognise where the fault is actually coming from hence the reason for my query.
The fault could actually begin at the release point,where I felt I was erring,the only way I can describe it,it was short circuiting my finish,it I felt was affecting my pivot "to a point".I hope you can follow my train of thought....cheers
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Old 07-07-2009, 06:57 AM
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So,let me see if I get it,at release I swivel to impact,at impact it is hinged to follow through to both arms straight and then to finish swivel,forgive the dumb questions,but you are turning on some light bulbs for me...thanks Daryl
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Old 07-07-2009, 07:36 AM
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Thanks for quick reply Daryl,do you see my reason for my asking this question. For quite some time I have felt that I had to roll L/forearm at the elbow,it seems to create a fault in the follow through which a lot of golfers may not recognise where the fault is actually coming from hence the reason for my query.
The fault could actually begin at the release point,where I felt I was erring,the only way I can describe it,it was short circuiting my finish,it I felt was affecting my pivot "to a point".I hope you can follow my train of thought....cheers
It's the Difference between Swiveling through Impact and Hinging through Impact. You may Swivel Through Release but not through Impact.

But Swiveling and Roll Power are not the same. Swiveling Rotates the Clubface by the Left Wrist while Roll Power Rotates the Primary Lever from the Right Elbow. Swingers using Standard Wrist Action may Swivel during Release but it is not required. Swiveling is necessary when you release early (Elbow Plane) because you cannot Uncock and Roll the #3 Accumulator on the same Plane Line.

Swiveling Rotates the Clubshaft Counterclockwise. The #3 Accumulator Roll, rotates the Power Package and Clubshaft.

Swingers using a Turned Shoulder Plane can Uncock and have the #3 Accumulator Roll on the Same Plane Line.

Right Elbow Location determines how much Roll Power can be used. However, a Double Wrist Action Swinger Only Swivels through the Release Interval.

With Roll Power you should feel the #3 Pressure Point move to the Fatty part of your Right Index Finger during Impact. With Swiveling, the Pressure will stay on Top of the Clubshaft.

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6-B-3-0 THE THIRD POWER ACCUMULATOR Power Accumulator #3 is formed by the angle established between the Clubshaft and the Left Forearm. Accumulator #3 should never be “Out-of-Line – instead, it seeks to MAINTAIN its radial alignment with the Left Arm and Left Wrist vertical to its associated Plane. So, basically, Accumulator #3 Hand Motion (4-D-0) is “Clubface Control,” “Rhythm Control,” and “Roll Power Control” of the Right Elbow (7-3). Study 2-G and 7-20.
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Old 07-07-2009, 08:16 AM
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great post
Once again good post. Importance of distinguishing between forearm wrist motion and whole arm motion is rarely pointed out.
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Old 07-08-2009, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by brownman View Post
Please bear with me if this question has been dealt with in a previous post,not sure how to word heading in "search" to find out,so I will ask directly.
Where does the L/arm actually "rotate" from?,in my attempts to maintain FLW(R/hander),I have found myself rotating my L/forearm,but get the feeling that it is not correct,should my L/arm be rotating from the shoulder and not the elbow?,both can be done ,butthe resultant finishes are quite different...What is right?....Thanks in advance

Where in the book is this covered...thanks


Brownman assuming you are still Hitting, Id say that given Angled Hinge Action and Punch elbow there isnt a feeling of turn or roll, so you dont need to worry about where originates from. The left wrist however will still need to swivel onto plane in the backswing and in release - a left wrist only deal as opposed to the entire left arm deal of Hinge Action.

A Hitter bends his right elbow to move the Primary Lever (left arm and club) in startup. No turning left wrist necessary but you do need to monitor your left wrist staying perpendicular to the Angled Plane. Let the right elbow provide its magic and it will get it done and cock the left wrist in the process.

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Old 07-09-2009, 04:00 AM
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Thanks for reply OB.
I still "HIT" from time to time,but at present Im learning swing procedure,my bad,sorry. The thing that got me on track today or lit up another light bulb was imagining the is a plane line 2" below the surface,NOW,Im really compressing the ball.More later...cheers
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Old 07-10-2009, 01:55 AM
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NO worries mate, I swing and hit too. There is something special about going all the way "down". I think the arms go up and down and the pivot goes back and around, the clubhead orbit netting out on plane. As such the arms and the hands if focused upon must be very "down" oriented. The pivot will supply the "out". Normally it is the "down" that is missing in 3D impact.
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:08 AM
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Thanks OB,I totally agree with your 3D concept,I played today and generally compressed the ball well,for the most part.
I have to "fess-up",I hit 2 of those shots we dont speak of,s....s,but at least I understand what took place,simply did not full uncocking left hand,I feel I actually let my fingers on my R/hand come into play...flipped...I think it is down to discipline...cheers
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