Perhaps researching the "Throws" will help the Throwaway problem. Similarly named things but actually very different and delightfully mutually exclusive to some extent.
10-20-E The Swingers left wrist Throw. By actively throwing down plane any horizontal hand motion or "throwaway" is highly unlikely. Also 10-20-B Hitters Right arm throw.
Let the right shoulder take the power package down plane as per usual in Startdown ensuring that you dont run out of right arm and then trigger the power packages release of its accumulated power with a Throw of some sort. Early or later throw (trigger) for various shots, trajectories, power etc. No Throwaway as its hard to "hammer" and flip at the same time. It seems like a throw would encourage an early release but on film you'd be surprised by how late it can be despite the way it feels. Oh and man do you go down, way on down to where the music plays as Elvis would say.
This component may be the main difference between Hitting and Swinging for me anyways.
The Wrist Throw automatically Triggers the Release of the #3 Accumulator. If the Right Palm faces the Plane at Release and the Right Wrist is Bent and Level, then Straightening the Right Elbow will Force the Left Arm to Roll. Centrifugal Force Uncocks the Left Wrist and Straightens the Right Elbow. So, it's Automatic if one can achieve the Geometry of the Right Palm Facing the Plane at Release. Definite Pitched Elbow.
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10-20-E WRIST THROW Here, the Right Hand remains palm-up to the Plane during the Uncocking of the Left Wrist to produce a Sequenced Release per 2-G and 4-D-0. Especially compatible with Swinging. See 6-H-0-F.
By deliberately initiating the Wrist Roll at any point before reaching the end of the Delivery Path Line, the Non-Automatic version can be produced.
To deliberately initiate the Wrist Roll at any point before reaching the End of the Delivery Path Line, one Flattens the Left Wrist from it's Bent Condition. A simple Bump of the Left Wrist toward Arched Rolls the Clubface. Thus, Rolling the Clubface no longer depends on the Straightening Right Elbow.
Note: Without using a Wrist Throw Procedure, all Swingers must use a Non-Automatic Roll. That means they must deliberately bump the Left Wrist before reaching the End of the Delivery Line.
The Wrist Throw automatically Triggers the Release of the #3 Accumulator. If the Right Palm faces the Plane at Release and the Right Wrist is Bent and Level, then Straightening the Right Elbow will Force the Left Arm to Roll. Centrifugal Force Uncocks the Left Wrist and Straightens the Right Elbow. So, it's Automatic if one can achieve the Geometry of the Right Palm Facing the Plane at Release. Definite Pitched Elbow.
To deliberately initiate the Wrist Roll at any point before reaching the End of the Delivery Path Line, one Flattens the Left Wrist from it's Bent Condition. A simple Bump of the Left Wrist toward Arched Rolls the Clubface. Thus, Rolling the Clubface no longer depends on the Straightening Right Elbow.
Note: Without using a Wrist Throw Procedure, all Swingers must use a Non-Automatic Roll. That means they must deliberately bump the Left Wrist before reaching the End of the Delivery Line.
Im just a tad confused here,where does the "BENT'L /wrist come from,I am lways flat L/wrist,at least I hope I am.
As for the left arm rotation,I am still having a battle finding a "feel"that reminds my body to rotate my upper arm from shoulder-NOT elbow as this is a point that is breaking my swing down from time to time.
It doesnt matter whether or not my R/ forearm pushes to both arms straight,that can be done with L/forearm roll or upper arm roll (sorry roll should read rotate)but one or the other is causing a faulty stroke.
I hope you can follow my description.....cheers
Im just a tad confused here,where does the "BENT'L /wrist come from,I am lways flat L/wrist,at least I hope I am.
As a Flat Left Wrist Swinger you cannot Roll on Plane unless you use a Wrist Throw to initiate Release. On short Strokes like Chips and Short Pitches you can slightly arch your Left Wrist at the End of your Backstroke.
Originally Posted by brownman
As for the left arm rotation,I am still having a battle finding a "feel"that reminds my body to rotate my upper arm from shoulder-NOT elbow as this is a point that is breaking my swing down from time to time.
That's because it's not something you should Try to do, it's something that happens as a result of Alignments. Use 10-2-B Grip, a Power Package with a Pitched Right Elbow, Straight Line Delivery Path and Wrist Throw. It will Roll.
Your Right Elbow needs to get closer to your Belt Buckel while your right palm is still facing up and you begin to Uncock as your Right Palm is Facing Up. This Alignment will Snap Roll the #3 Accumulator as the Right Elbow Straightens. It has no choice. You will feel an underhand Pitch motion.
Originally Posted by brownman
It doesnt matter whether or not my R/ forearm pushes to both arms straight,that can be done with L/forearm roll or upper arm roll (sorry roll should read rotate)but one or the other is causing a faulty stroke.
I hope you can follow my description.....cheers
Don't Confuse Roll with Hinging.
Hinging occurs when the Left Wrist is Flat before, during and After Impact. You're Aligned to produce an Angled Hinge. You want to Align Components in such a way to produce a Horizontal Hinge (Full Roll - See Above)
Thanks for help Daryl,I will take time to read through the yellow bible armed with your advice....I will let you know how its progressing...thanks again
Daryl,and OBleft.
Good news on my journey to swingland,I feel so much more at home with the wrist throw.Now Im getting R/elbow into "pitch " position with R/palm up.But Im now understanding more about my alignments and how it all unfolds down into the the back of the ball,all still on plane.
Once it all started to come together it feels so "natural" for my R/elbow to get nearer to belt buckle and the resulting shots are begining to look,feel and sound like a golf shot
Today,I found myself being able to practice 3 forms,1...swinging.2...hitting.3...single plane the latter just for fun.As for the the distance difference between hit and swing,very minimal,what I did find was mainly a difference in height between H & Swinging.
I might have been slow learning the swingers pattern but along the way I have learned a lot more about lever alighnments...Cheers BM
Its all about the right elbow's position, to my mind. That is why Homer used it, the right elbow, to define the various strokes. PItch , Punch, Push etc. The elbows position promotes the corresponding hand, wrist alignments. Pitch elbow begets a early left wrist cocking via the bent right elbow and a delayed release for instance.
Want to Float Load? Get a Pitch elbow in transition.
By the way, since you are an old hitter type, Pitch ish elbow does not mean that you cant use a right arm throw.
Daryl, I believe you have mentioned this before, but the left wrist is slightly bent at release to allow for the uncock and roll of the wrist throw, correct? It appears to be the case, but as you know, there is no 'seems as if' in the golf swing, just checking. Thanks
Daryl, I believe you have mentioned this before, but the left wrist is slightly bent at release to allow for the uncock and roll of the wrist throw, correct? It appears to be the case, but as you know, there is no 'seems as if' in the golf swing, just checking. Thanks
Hmm? The Wrist Throw (Right Wrist) is a Flat Left Wrist Procedure. This, I think, is a "Purists" point of view. (ask 12 pc Bucket for a definition of "Purist" )
The amount of Bend in the Left Wrist (10-2-B Grip) depends and coordinates with Right elbow Location. Flatter Swing Planes have the Right Elbow Closer to and in front of the Right Hip and need Wrist Bend. Right Elbows on a Turned Shoulder Plane are Located Slightly away from the Body and Closer to the Belt Buckle and need a Flat Left Wrist.
With a Level and Bent Right Wrist, relocating the Right Elbow left vs. Right and Closer vs. away from the Body, which is simply relocating the Right Elbow to Flatter and Steeper Planes will show that the Left Wrist Bend Changes without changing the Bend in the Right Wrist.
Clubhead Vs. Clubface:
Changing the Left Wrist from Bent to Flat demonstrates that the motion spins the Clubshaft and Changes the Clubface. This is a Clubface Motion. I think that this is Zero #3 Accumulator. Two Barrel.
The #3 Accumulator is a Clubhead Motion (Flat Left Wrist). It is a Flying Wedge Roll that Changes the Location of the Clubhead. This is why Horizontal Hinging has greater Clubhead Travel than Angled Hinging and why Vertical Hinging has very little Travel. This is #3 Accumulator Power that will be added to the Residual #2 Velocity Power. Three Barrel.
Daryl, I believe you have mentioned this before, but the left wrist is slightly bent at release to allow for the uncock and roll of the wrist throw, correct? It appears to be the case, but as you know, there is no 'seems as if' in the golf swing, just checking. Thanks
The critial alignment is the left arm flying wedge.
What I think you mean, the left wrist being 'flat' visually at release is not actually flat, but slightly arched.
There is no need for 'bend' at release if the proper definition of 'flat' is understood. bent = left arm flying wedge out of alignment flat = left arm flying wedge in alignment.
Take your left hand and grab a bottle/glass or water and lift it up to drink. That is a flat left wrist.
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