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Old 10-25-2009, 06:19 PM
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6-B-1-D EXTENSOR ACTION is exclusively the steady effort to straighten the bent Right Arm. This stretches but does not move the Left Arm and produces a structural rigidity that is a strong deterrent to collapse under the stresses of Acceleration and Impact. It is in operation from Impact Fix to the end of Follow-through. In addition, this action promotes:
1. the full extension of the Left Arm at all times
2. the full extension of the Right Arm for the Follow-through
3. the correct rate of “Clubhead Closing”
4. the proper type of support for “passive” (non-accelerating 6-C-0) Clubhead Lag Pressure involving Wristcock.
Except for Zero Accumulator #3 the “stretch” direction is aways Below Plane. Because of Extensor Action, the Right Triceps can never be totally “passive.”
passive = non-accelerating
Extensor Action is Passive Thrust (it's a force that doesn't increase clubhead speed)

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10-20-E WRIST THROW Here, the Right Hand remains palm-up to the Plane during the Uncocking of the Left Wrist to produce a Sequenced Release per 2-G and 4-D-0. Especially compatible with Swinging. See 6-H-0-F.

By deliberately initiating the Wrist Roll at any point before reaching the end of the Delivery Path Line, the Non-Automatic version can be produced.
The Purpose of the Wrist Throw is to release the Power Package AND induce "Swivel". Uncock, then Swivel. Generally, a lot of Uncocking Force (a lot of CF) is needed to automatically cause the Swivel. I don't mean Uncocking Hard or Violently, I mean CF is pure CF and not muscled in anyway (Hands are Clamps).

When the shot is short, ie. short Pitch Shot using #2 Accumulator, a Non-Automatic Wrist Throw is induced by Arching the Left Wrist. Arching the Left Wrist doesn't Release the Power Package but it relieves the reliance on CF for Swiveling.

It doesn't seem like the Non-Automatic Wrist Throw should be categorized as a Wrist Throw. But it is. Small Matter.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:15 AM
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Two thoughts that "pop" to mind.

1. Agreed but think you should try it with the left arm there D, not the right. Sheez.

2. What about Yoda's version of the Left Wrist Throw? Sure seems like an "active" , Non Automatic uncocking of the left wrist and On Plane, Sequenced Release. As opposed to the Wrist Roll deal.

3. Where were you going with Meatball Methods dufus? Were you heading somewhere or was that a Meatball thread start?

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Old 10-26-2009, 10:29 AM
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O.B.Left said: Two thoughts that "pop" to mind.

1. Agreed but think you should try it with the left arm there D, not the right. Sheez.

You lost me.

2. What about Yoda's version of the Left Wrist Throw? Sure seems like an "active" , Non Automatic uncocking of the left wrist and On Plane, Sequenced Release. As opposed to the Wrist Roll deal.


I don't know his version. I'm referencing the TGM version. The purpose of any throw is the Release of the Power Package. The specific advantage of the Wrist Throw Trigger is that along with Releasing the Power Package, it causes a Swivel. It causes a Sequenced Released. The Non-Automatic Version should be used with the "Delivery Line" Trigger. Thats why I question whether a non-automatic Wrist Throw should be classified a wrist throw.

3. Where were you going with Meatball Methods dufus? Were you heading somewhere or was that a Meatball thread start?

I have no idea what I was doing. I screw up once and awhile.

That was 3 thoughts.

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Old 10-27-2009, 08:55 PM
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It is my understanding that the wrist uncocks as the result of centrifugal force.. Hands are just clamps. No active uncocking of wrist at all. Or the wrist uncocks as the result of forearm thrust(Hitting). I seem to be forever adding a little wrist uncock to my procedure with mixed results or if I am not adding, I am controlling the rate of uncock which must be inhibiting my clubhead speed. Particularly on short shots where there is less CF. Here I can see the utility of using forearm thrust to power it thru. So if I am coming from the top(swinging) with a "karate chop" it is an arm motion powered by the pivot, pulling down with last three fingers(No 2 accum) but not actually uncocking the hand but waiting for the selected PA to uncock the wrist. So how many of you actually uncock your wrist using forearm muscles. Do you really either use forearm thrust or wait for CF to do it?
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Old 10-28-2009, 09:06 AM
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It is my understanding that the wrist uncocks as the result of centrifugal force.. Hands are just clamps. No active uncocking of wrist at all. Or the wrist uncocks as the result of forearm thrust(Hitting). I seem to be forever adding a little wrist uncock to my procedure with mixed results or if I am not adding, I am controlling the rate of uncock which must be inhibiting my clubhead speed. Particularly on short shots where there is less CF. Here I can see the utility of using forearm thrust to power it thru. So if I am coming from the top(swinging) with a "karate chop" it is an arm motion powered by the pivot, pulling down with last three fingers(No 2 accum) but not actually uncocking the hand but waiting for the selected PA to uncock the wrist. So how many of you actually uncock your wrist using forearm muscles. Do you really either use forearm thrust or wait for CF to do it?
That's what the Book is all about. The following answer is insufficient.

Pulling the Left Hand away from the Right Shoulder during the Downstroke is synonymous with Release. If the Left Hand and Shoulder move Downplane simultaneously, the Clubhead will not fly out into its own orbit.

If you uncock with the Muscles of the Left Hand and/or Forearm, then you'll need to Force a Roll with the same procedure. That's disaster because as you Roll the Left Hand for Impact, now with the Clubhead moving so much faster than the Hands, it will, must, bend the Left Wrist. The last thing any G.O.L.F.'er wants to do, is physically roll that Left Wrist before Impact. (that does not include arching such as used in a non-automatic Release)

CF will Uncock and Rotate the Clubhead. In G.O.L.F., your Hands Swivel because the Clubhead Rotates around the center of gravity, not the other way around. In a true CF swing, CF will square the Clubface to the Center of Gravity of the Clubhead every time. It's up to you and Your Hinge to Roll the Clubface through Impact.

If Rolling is imparted by the Pivot, and Swiveling is caused by Clubhead rotation, then what do the hands do?

Swiveling is a Clubhead Rotation. It's about a 1/8 Rotation of the Clubhead around the Sweetspot Plane (10-2-B Grip). Roll is Clubface. Roll is Toe and Heel.

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Old 10-28-2009, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by david sandridge View Post
So how many of you actually uncock your wrist using forearm muscles. Do you really either use forearm thrust or wait for CF to do it?

I will stand and be counted.

Hitting I employ a Right Arm Throw (a magic right elbow deal), Swinging a Left Wrist Throw (a wrist deal).

Yoda showed me the Left Wrist Throw about half way through my second lesson with him. After sending some drives another 15 yards or so and smack dab down the middle I said "Why the heck didnt you just show me this the first time we met". His response was a shrug of the shoulders and a look on his face that seemed to say "got to save something for the second lesson". Im up to about seven lessons with him now and he's still pulling stuff out of his bag of tricks by the way.

I'd say that a pure CF swing is a great thing, an ideal perhaps but if despite your best efforts you arent quite Hoganesque with an Automatic Snap Release try a Throw. It'll add some snap, discourages left wrist break down and on video will often, interestingly, show a later release. A Throw is included in each of Basic 12-1 and 12-2 procedures after all.

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