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Old 11-27-2012, 11:58 AM
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Daryl, Are you saying the RFAA is a "master" alignment?

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Old 11-27-2012, 03:19 PM
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Daryl, Are you saying the RFAA is a "master" alignment?

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The Right Forearm Flying Wedge On-Plane from Release through the Impact Interval is a Master Alignment. It has an Angle of Approach that changes to accommodate all different shots.

I haven't done a good job explaining the RFAA. I'll try harder.

When Homer Kelley says that the Right Forearm Flying Wedge needs to be On-Plane from Release through the Impact Interval, he isn't talking about "Ben Hogans Plane" or the Swing Plane Angle or direction of the baseline of the Swing Plane.

He means that the Right Forearm and Longitudinal COG of the Club must be in Alignment, and when they're Aligned, they form their own Plane - the Plane of the Right Wrist Bend. It would be nice if the COG of the Club were also on the chosen Swing Plane Angle but the Right Forearm Wedge has its very own Alignment and it can follow any Swing Plane Angle or Swing Plane Baseline Direction the Player Chooses.

So, the Right Forearm Flying Wedge should form a Plane of its own. And the Right Forearm, from Release through Impact "approaches" Low-Point by moving "Down, Out and Forward". This creates an Angle.

How do you - the Golfer - know whether or not your Right Forearm Approach angle is optimal? You say: "The right Forearm Flying Wedge should be Aligned to the Swing Plane, and then, it's Optimal". And I say: "The Right Forearm Angle of Approach shows you the Swing Plane and Plane Angle it deems necessary to sustain the Line of Compression" (or something like that).
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Old 11-27-2012, 03:39 PM
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...With each club
Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
The Right Forearm Flying Wedge On-Plane from Release through the Impact Interval is a Master Alignment. It has an Angle of Approach that changes to accommodate all different shots.

I haven't done a good job explaining the RFAA. I'll try harder.

When Homer Kelley says that the Right Forearm Flying Wedge needs to be On-Plane from Release through the Impact Interval, he isn't talking about "Ben Hogans Plane" or the Swing Plane Angle or direction of the baseline of the Swing Plane.

He means that the Right Forearm and Longitudinal COG of the Club must be in Alignment, and when they're Aligned, they form their own Plane - the Plane of the Right Wrist Bend. It would be nice if the COG of the Club were also on the chosen Swing Plane Angle but the Right Forearm Wedge has its very own Alignment and it can follow any Swing Plane Angle or Swing Plane Baseline Direction the Player Chooses.

So, the Right Forearm Flying Wedge should form a Plane of its own. And the Right Forearm, from Release through Impact "approaches" Low-Point by moving "Down, Out and Forward". This creates an Angle.

How do you - the Golfer - know whether or not your Right Forearm Approach angle is optimal? You say: "The right Forearm Flying Wedge should be Aligned to the Swing Plane, and then, it's Optimal". And I say: "The Right Forearm Angle of Approach shows you the Swing Plane and Plane Angle it deems necessary to sustain the Line of Compression" (or something like that).
"...sustain the Line of Compression...with/for each club." IMHO

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Old 11-27-2012, 06:27 PM
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Keep this thread going guys,this is the read I ,ve had in ages.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
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.............4. The Left Hand Rolls, the Bent Right Wrist does not. ...........
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Daryl, You bolded #4 - I assume for emphasis?
Let's see if I am following your thinking.
The left hand remains perpendicular to it associated hinge plane therefore it will roll on the swing plane for horizontal hinging, remain perpendicular to the plane for angled hinge etc. ? The right wrist does not roll but pp#3, which is only monitoring for a swing with horizontal hinging will have the feel of continuing to rotate to the rear of the shaft all the way down plane and will arive at the rear at low point.
Does this sound like the same page U are on?

For the Hit-nothing rolls and pp#3 is stationary?

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Old 11-28-2012, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by HungryBear View Post
Daryl, You bolded #4 - I assume for emphasis?
Let's see if I am following your thinking.
The left hand remains perpendicular to it associated hinge plane therefore it will roll on the swing plane for horizontal hinging, remain perpendicular to the plane for angled hinge etc. ? The right wrist does not roll but pp#3, which is only monitoring for a swing with horizontal hinging will have the feel of continuing to rotate to the rear of the shaft all the way down plane and will arive at the rear at low point.
Does this sound like the same page U are on?

For the Hit-nothing rolls and pp#3 is stationary?

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With Angled and Horizontal Hinge Actions the Primary Lever Turns and Rolls, which is the Plane of the Wrist Cock. At Release, the Back of the Left Hand Faces outward toward the Plane Line and as it Rolls it Faces the Target. I'm only stating that the Plane of the Left Wrist Cock moves from Parallel to the Plane Line to Perpendicular to the Plane Line.

The Right Forearm Plane does not Rotate because its aligned and remains on the Swing Plane. The Right Wrist Does not Roll. The Right Wrist is not Vertical at Impact because the Flying Wedges are aligned at 90 degrees (Optimally).

Also, can you grasp this? In the Release Swivel, Only the Left Hand Swivels, the Right Hand does not. Both Hands Swivel during the Finish Swivel.

You need the Bucket Drill. You'll see the Alignment and understand the beauty of the RFAA.
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Old 11-28-2012, 02:54 PM
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And the Right Forearm, from Release through Impact "approaches" Low-Point by moving "Down, Out and Forward".
This statement typifies a widespread and damaging misconception among TGM students. The hands are moving up and in at impact, and so also the right forearm is moving up and in at impact.
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Old 11-28-2012, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe View Post
This statement typifies a widespread and damaging misconception among TGM students. The hands are moving up and in at impact, and so also the right forearm is moving up and in at impact.
We know that but at this point in the discussion it is little more than subterfuge. The basic alignments ar at issue here please.
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Old 11-28-2012, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by HungryBear View Post
We know that but at this point in the discussion it is little more than subterfuge. The basic alignments ar at issue here please.
Thank You

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Whoever "We" is, it doesn't include those who don't know it. Writing that the forearm is moving down and out through impact is the deception.
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Old 11-28-2012, 07:03 PM
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Whoever "We" is, it doesn't include those who don't know it. Writing that the forearm is moving down and out through impact is the deception.

Please explain.

I knew you guys were behind, some need longer than others, but I didn't realize that you guys were so far behind.
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