If you draw a line from his #3 pp at Top or End down to where they are in that second photo......it'd be nearly vertical line. This is "Vertical Drop". Plane Shift from a higher to a lower Plane Angle. Something he has to do given where his hands are at Top. If he left them way up there and Turned his Right Shoulder down towards the ball, his Hands would go immediately OUT over top of the Plane. Hes dropping those things and fast so that doenst happen. Trying to get back to place from where he can attack the ball from the inside. Inside Out Impact, the inside to out Delivery Line of the clubhead associated with an on plane , Straight Line Base Line (as opposed to the true Inside Outside Stroke , with its Closed Plane Line).
The more bent the Right Arm is at Impact the stronger the shot, treat the feel of after Impact as though it was Impact, even though the ball is gone. The "normal" position of the Arms (6-A-4)-that until after the Follow-Through, the Left Arm is never bent, the Right Arm is never straight. Does Fowler follow any of these concepts?
The more bent the Right Arm is at Impact the stronger the shot, treat the feel of after Impact as though it was Impact, even though the ball is gone. The "normal" position of the Arms (6-A-4)-that until after the Follow-Through, the Left Arm is never bent, the Right Arm is never straight. Does Fowler follow any of these concepts?
And how does one move his fully bent right Elbow down close to the ball if not via the turning of the Pivot the Right Shoulder specifically? The answer .....there is no other way.
Once the Arms separate from the Shoulders ......the Right Arm is Straightening and you're into Release. To Delay Release you must transport you fully bent Right Arm down to a later Release Point.
The Right Shoulder is so, so important. In fact Homer said we'd all come to feel like we were hitting the ball with our right shoulder.
I see Launching Pad here . . . . I gotta go on a patented 2 hour lunch break . . . but I'll have more to say about this . . . I see the right shoulder motion supporting the motion of the primary lever and being a backstop for #1? Tip of Right Shoulder to pocket above left elbow joint . . . this is something that Eddie Cox has told me about numerous times . . . just now starting to see it . . . . good stuff . . . Even though the right shoulder is working down and out . . . it is still working ON TOP of the left arm Primary Lever . . . NOT UNDER NEATH IT . . . still tilting the tea cup but not shifting the plane . . . ultimate efficiency.
bucket , I don't agree with this , these guys are snowing you , none of them can sniff Hogan
bucket , I don't agree with this , these guys are snowing you , none of them can sniff Hogan
Speaking of sniffing . . . how's offspring treating y'all? Tried to tell you man!!!!
Talk to me about this Hogan stuff . . . . Not really worried about the hitting/swinging part but what about the right shoulder staying on top of the left arm? Junk? Maybe? or don't matter?
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Speaking of sniffing . . . how's offspring treating y'all? Tried to tell you man!!!!
Talk to me about this Hogan stuff . . . . Not really worried about the hitting/swinging part but what about the right shoulder staying on top of the left arm? Junk? Maybe? or don't matter?
Look at how he tilts and pivots , I can see what you are saying
Not much time as ya told me, but I see that cox and abs forum has got you on hogan . What I see is the camera angle is promoting the deal you are seeing , however I'd say its how the left arm gets down that differentiates the swinger vs the hitter. With regard to hogan he sure hits some punchy shots like the one you put up when he played snead / 18th hole approach, however look at his full swings and tell me you see an elevated right shoulder / I see an externally rotated right shoulder , rounding off somewhat while his left side bend tilts more into the ball . Also note how its his pivot which is regaining flexion whilst rotating that shifts the left arm out a bit and then down, rather than launchpad and right shoulder pushing down on the left arm and note his right elbow move into a throwing postion / with right shoulder supporting
Not junk just the way it is given tsp or lower isn't it? You got photos of any pros with their hands or arms above their right shoulder in Release?
That's not exactly what I'm trying to describe . .. but this would be kinda the opposite of it . . . Look at where the hands are in space . . . where they are in relationship to the right shoulder . . . where the club cuts the right arm on the way down . . the relationship of the left arm to the stance line when the left arm is approximately parallel to the ground . . . also look at the relationship of the angle of the left arm to the ground at deliveryish . . . Hogan's left arm is essentially vertical to the ground . . . Cink is out angled
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Look at how he tilts and pivots , I can see what you are saying
Not much time as ya told me, but I see that cox and abs forum has got you on hogan . What I see is the camera angle is promoting the deal you are seeing , however I'd say its how the left arm gets down that differentiates the swinger vs the hitter. With regard to hogan he sure hits some punchy shots like the one you put up when he played snead / 18th hole approach, however look at his full swings and tell me you see an elevated right shoulder / I see an externally rotated right shoulder , rounding off somewhat while his left side bend tilts more into the ball . Also note how its his pivot which is regaining flexion whilst rotating that shifts the left arm out a bit and then down, rather than launchpad and right shoulder pushing down on the left arm and note his right elbow move into a throwing postion / with right shoulder supporting
Talk to me . . . . Best I could do fast on pulling it together . . .
How does this part work . . .
externally rotated right shoulder , rounding off somewhat while his left side bend tilts more into the ball . Also note how its his pivot which is regaining flexion whilst rotating that shifts the left arm out a bit and then down, rather than launchpad and right shoulder pushing down on the left arm
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