I want to be sure all the hitters who are interested see this wonderful article at our Australian Sister site ISG. Really good stuff.
It seems the preference for most is a mid body hands set up using lagging clubhead takeaway. I think that is a wonderful, beautiful way to play the game, for the majority. However, myself and many other hitters prefer impact hands address, as does Mr. Gay at present.
I was lambasted on another site for expressing this personal preference, and really didn't know how to defend myself, other than believing in different options and knowing what works for me. I'm not interested in debating methods anyway... no right, wrong, or best. This wonderful article by Mr. Smith, with help from my friend Loren, explains to me why I prefer it for my own game, if that sentence makes any sense at all.
OPTIONS.
It's nice to have friends at another site with like ideas and professional attitudes. These gentlemen also credit YODA's teaching often, in fact they do constantly!
Good point Kevin, one other issue us mid-body hands at address people need to remember is the necessity of establishing the grip at impact fix, not at adjusted address. I have been fighting an open clubface the last few weeks until I reviewed this gem of Homer's, which is incredibly important. Glad you are out on the course again buddy. We have to get together again soon.
Good point Kevin, one other issue us mid-body hands at address people need to remember is the necessity of establishing the grip at impact fix, not at adjusted address. I have been fighting an open clubface the last few weeks until I reviewed this gem of Homer's, which is incredibly important. Glad you are out on the course again buddy. We have to get together again soon.
Good to see your voice Roger!
I wish I were back on the course, took a couple of steps backwards with my elbow. I need to get back to the doctor and see what needs to be done so I can swing. Back to basic motion, maybe that will do for me what it did for Brian Gay!
Kevin
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Kev are you saying most posters on the other site are Hitters that prefer adjusted? Or just golfers in general swingers included?
Me when Im Hitting, which is most of the time, I go back and forth on Startup from Fix or Adjusted. I'd stay with Fix if it werent for my love of the feeling of the Lagging Takeaway. ALTHOUGH Yoda does mention in the Premium Brian Gay video how Brian startsup from Fix but does have a touch of Lag and Drag! Interesting stuff.
Also in the Premium Address Routine Video with Ted Fort (who startsup from Fix) Yoda alludes to 12-1-0's reco for Adjusted as an example of Homers desire for "Sameness" between the two patterns. (Its about 14 minutes into the tape.)
This sameness makes it easier for the person who goes back and forth between Hitting and Swinging but Yoda is very clear that Homer had a stated preference for Hitters who have first mastered 12-1-0 Hitting from Adjusted to then move to Starting up from Impact Fix. Although to each their own.
By the way the Address Routine Video is a must watch for Swingers and Hitters..........it covers so much ground. The outline of the Startdown Waggle, the visual equivalents etc etc etc. It isnt just about a common golf speak "routine" , no Sir. Its pure gold that one. Maybe my fave.
It was a non-TGM site where they were talking of golfers in general... a method / band-aid teacher who doesn't understand options.
I agree, the address routine videos are wonderful, and I am certainly not disagreeing with anything Mr. Kelley or our friend Mr. Yoda teach. You KNOW that!!!
Kevin
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It was a non-TGM site where they were talking of golfers in general... a method / band-aid teacher who doesn't understand options.
I agree, the address routine videos are wonderful, and I am certainly not disagreeing with anything Mr. Kelley or our friend Mr. Yoda teach. You KNOW that!!!
Kevin
I wasnt thinking or suggesting that at all Kev. Far from it, sorry. Perhaps I didnt choose my words carefully enough. Just trying to provide some info on Fix vs Adjusted for the Hitter. There's no "right way" but Homer really liked Startup from Fix assuming you have first mastered Adjusted it would seem.
The master should be able to go back and forth between the two. Ive read that Yoda experiments with mismatched procedures at times.........Swinging from Fix, Horizontal Hinging while Hitting from Fix etc etc. Its a beautiful thing for those who can do it.
I want to be sure all the hitters who are interested see this wonderful article at our Australian Sister site ISG. Really good stuff.
It seems the preference for most is a mid body hands set up using lagging clubhead takeaway. I think that is a wonderful, beautiful way to play the game, for the majority. However, myself and many other hitters prefer impact hands address, as does Mr. Gay at present.
I was lambasted on another site for expressing this personal preference, and really didn't know how to defend myself, other than believing in different options and knowing what works for me. I'm not interested in debating methods anyway... no right, wrong, or best. This wonderful article by Mr. Smith, with help from my friend Loren, explains to me why I prefer it for my own game, if that sentence makes any sense at all.
OPTIONS.
It's nice to have friends at another site with like ideas and professional attitudes. These gentlemen also credit YODA's teaching often, in fact they do constantly!
I don't think there is a good video that shows the complete pre shot routine process that goes through the procedure from start to finish. I have tons of trouble trying to take a grip from impact address, moving it back to adjusted address and then swinging.
I always get the feeling this can't be right because the results have been so poor. Its not a lack of effort or time commitment.
I don't think there is a good video that shows the complete pre shot routine process that goes through the procedure from start to finish. I have tons of trouble trying to take a grip from impact address, moving it back to adjusted address and then swinging.
I always get the feeling this can't be right because the results have been so poor. Its not a lack of effort or time commitment.
I think you and I have been on very similar paths Greg!
Kevin
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I don't think there is a good video that shows the complete pre shot routine process that goes through the procedure from start to finish. I have tons of trouble trying to take a grip from impact address, moving it back to adjusted address and then swinging.
I always get the feeling this can't be right because the results have been so poor. Its not a lack of effort or time commitment.
Have you seen the Premium Video that Lynn, Jeff and Ted did a few years ago on the Address Routine that pretty much explains everything.
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