So if one can get the left knee and hip working in the manner shown/described in the pictures, without that lateral slide that I have, that would accelerate the shoulder and you would be able to generate more power? Would that hit the ball higher, I struggle hitting the ball low. (for the record, I am a 8 handicap).
I appreciate the comments, I definitely need to get a little wider.
You struggle with hitting the Ball Low? Well, from your Left Hips point of view, your hitting the Ball off your Right Foot.
One, two or three corrections may not solve all of your problems. But, I guarantee that learning mechanics and then feel from mechanics is the right approach.
You might be shutting down the Clubface to prevent push-fades (i.e. your hitting the back of the ball with a shut face rather than hitting the inside aft-quadrant with a slightly open face). It's possible that correcting your Hip Turn may require a similar correction by normalizing (10-2-B) your grip.
I tend to hit draws and smother hooks. Face is definitely turning down, so many of my divots are right at the target yet the ball ends up 25 yards left. Horizontal hinging makes it worse, to the point I try to feel a vertical hinge to hold it off.
I have to be careful and not "goat hump" when I try to work the hips per those pictures.
I don’t mean to be over-critical, but the curiosity is that you already score so well. An eight handicap is respectable. You’re getting up and down. What happens when you don’t need half of those chips and pitch shots? Can your mid irons get you close enough to Birdie?
If you keep those hips back, as Bucket says, then you probably won’t slide out. Zone one. It’s easier said than done, but you hit enough balls to make the changes in one range session. If I struggle, it’s always the Pivot because of falling back into old habits.
I agree with Yoda 100% about the Finish Swivel. But once you have that, then I think that 95% of all swing related problems stem from compensations made for a sub-standard Pivot. Of course if those compensations earn you a Million Dollars on the Tour, then I’d say “eh, I’ll take the million”.
I have a great short game, much better than your average 8 handicap, I can absolutely putt with the best of them. So you can hit it around the course and make a lot of pars with that ability. The problem is I dont make enough birdies and don't have holes where one crooked shot just blows things up.
For example. 590 yard par 5, hit a 250 yard drive, a 190 yard 4 iron. SO I have 150 up hill into the wind left, I hit a 7 iron. It starts out a bit left of the target and hooks hard, so hard I hit a hill left of the green and then bounces across the cart path and into lose landscape rock, it leads to a double bogey. I have holes like this all the time, it was hole 7, was 3 over at the time. A birdie on the par 5 and its looking like a great round. I have to many holes like that. Next hole was a 460 yard par 4, hit a 270 yard drive and had 190 up the hill, hit a 5 iron to 20 feet. Just no consistency to get down to a low handicap.
I have always been able to hit it ok, any method, any style, but to get good the last couple years has been much much harder. Its not a lack of effort, thats for sure.
I can tell from your one picture that you hit a lot of balls.
From what you describe about your game, I think that you're
problems are Zone 1. Your Arms and Hands are too good to be at
fault for these types of inconsistencies. They have made up for
some bad zone 1 stuff as much as you can ask.
Lets see some pictures with an improved hip slide and turn and let
us know about any zone three compensations you don't need anymore.
Begin the Zone one improvements by keeping your weight on Both Feet,
50-50 during the entire stroke. That means almost zero hip slide
and zero weight shift. Moderate Swings. Adjustments will
probably need to be made to zone 3 (Hands). After eliminating
some of your built-in compensations, you can increase your weight
shift a little at a time. If you reach a certain amount of weight
shift and the swing begins to fail, back off the weight shift
until you can locate and eliminate the compensation.
I would definitely focus on Delayed Hip Action.
Let your hands take the club back and then arms
which will pull your shoulders and subsequently rotate your hips
during the backswing. Do not let your head move to the right. Your arms will
get quite high before they pull the shoulders into the backstroke. It may feel very weird.
Let this procedure PULL your left heel off the ground.
Then start-down by planting your left heel. Don't pull with the Hands.
This way, on the downswing, you'll need to keep rotating your hips
to get the Hands down to the ball.
After only a few strokes you should have most of your
compensations re-adjusted and be hitting the ball better than
ever.
One last thing. If you, at address, move your hips to the left about 2 inches,
that will serve as a preset hip slide to tilt the secondary axis. Try it.
Then, it's becomes a simple rotation to the left, rather than Hip Slide-Rotation on the downswing.
I have a great short game, much better than your average 8 handicap, I can absolutely putt with the best of them. So you can hit it around the course and make a lot of pars with that ability. The problem is I dont make enough birdies and don't have holes where one crooked shot just blows things up.
For example. 590 yard par 5, hit a 250 yard drive, a 190 yard 4 iron. SO I have 150 up hill into the wind left, I hit a 7 iron. It starts out a bit left of the target and hooks hard, so hard I hit a hill left of the green and then bounces across the cart path and into lose landscape rock, it leads to a double bogey. I have holes like this all the time, it was hole 7, was 3 over at the time. A birdie on the par 5 and its looking like a great round. I have to many holes like that. Next hole was a 460 yard par 4, hit a 270 yard drive and had 190 up the hill, hit a 5 iron to 20 feet. Just no consistency to get down to a low handicap.
I have always been able to hit it ok, any method, any style, but to get good the last couple years has been much much harder. Its not a lack of effort, thats for sure.
Ain't seen it but . . . that sounds like goat humping to me . . . that's the kinda resluts I get when I hump the goat. The shaft gets sooooo far behind you that you CAN'T get the face open enough not to hit a hook. there's so much side spin that the ball just goes HARD left.
Where do you hands/club appear on the thru side down the line in video? Do they come out at or below your shoulder? Or above it like thru the neck or ear? Do you hit pushes some too?
The long term solution . . . fix your pivot. A quick fix to actually play could be to aim left and hit pushes like couples or lee buck for a while. But long term sounds like a pivot deal.
7 iron, just jumped out into the front yard, think the ball got back a little and this was out of some bermuda fluff grass but you can see the swing. This is a hitting motion. 420 frames at low res for file size thats why its a touch blurry.
Begin the Zone one improvements by keeping your weight on Both Feet,
50-50 during the entire stroke. That means almost zero hip slide
and zero weight shift. Moderate Swings. Adjustments will
probably need to be made to zone 3 (Hands). After eliminating
some of your built-in compensations, you can increase your weight
shift a little at a time. If you reach a certain amount of weight
shift and the swing begins to fail, back off the weight shift
until you can locate and eliminate the compensation.
I would definitely focus on Delayed Hip Action.
Let your hands take the club back and then arms
which will pull your shoulders and subsequently rotate your hips
during the backswing. Do not let your head move to the right. Your arms will
get quite high before they pull the shoulders into the backstroke. It may feel very weird.
Let this procedure PULL your left heel off the ground.
Then start-down by planting your left heel. Don't pull with the Hands.
This way, on the downswing, you'll need to keep rotating your hips
to get the Hands down to the ball.
After only a few strokes you should have most of your
compensations re-adjusted and be hitting the ball better than
ever.
One last thing. If you, at address, move your hips to the left about 2 inches,
that will serve as a preset hip slide to tilt the secondary axis. Try it.
Then, it's becomes a simple rotation to the left, rather than Hip Slide-Rotation on the downswing.
Pivot Therapy, I LOVE it. Some more GREAT work there Daryl!
Kevin
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