If you're applying Extensor Action (correctly) then the right elbow doesn't move away or up (from the body) until the right arm is fully bent (as far as EA allows it to be bent). Visually, the right elbow is always visible below the left arm, including Adjusted Address.
98.10% (I made that number up) of golfers don't use (apply) EA, including the Pro's (at least applying EA from the beginning of Start-up). Integrally related is that you can't perform the Right Forearm Takeaway with-out EA. Anyone can be taught to fake the look.
Sergio doesn't apply much Extensor Action (but some) but certainly doesn't use the RFT.
The only knowledge I've gained about EA from studying those who don't apply it, is that there are many ways to hit a golf ball. IMHO.
All of this should be under the heading of "The Magic of the Right Forearm".
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Important to keep in mind that how you see the elbows and their relationship to each other, depends on both when, and where, you are observing them.
If you could keep the geometric relationships from getting distorted by perspectives, the elbows would IMO ideally be 'level' to each other, and on plane at a 90 degree angle to 'the plane'.
The lower (flatter) the plane angle, the more toward pitch elbow you need to be to obtain that alignment.
The higher (upright) the plane angle, the more toward punch elbow.
A truly vertical plane would require push elbow, if it were anatomically possible, and the physics of the clubs design were changed to accommodate.
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"Extensor action has nothing to do with the flying wedges, there is no 'longitudinal alignment' of the left arm and extensor action has nothing to with the loading and the right elbow position. Thats TGM sludge. FACT!"
While perusing my attention was drawn to this statement. The idea that extensor action has nothing to do with the flying wedges. The way I see it (happy to change that to "saw it") is that creating the 90 degree relationship between the LFW and the RFW at fix determines the amount of right elbow bend. Do you not need a bent right elbow in order to attempt to straighten it against the checkrein of the left arm? Also doesn't extensor action ensure, or help ensure the correct degree of elbow bend at top?
So by the constant effort of straightening a bent right elbow, my left arm is extended, that resultant left arm extension then is what determines the degree of right arm bend. I thought I knew what extensor action was!!!
The flying wedges and my selected plane determine the amount if hip bend (assuming a normal knee flex)
The on plane right forearm determines the amount of elbow bend at fix
The checkrein of the left arm determines the suitable amount of right elbow bend from startup to follow through with maximum radius
To the knowledgeable membership of Lynn Blake Golf,
When applying extensor action in the backswing......what will the appearance of the right elbow be in relation to the left arm and what variables can affect the right elbows appearance??
To clarify appearance......will the right elbow be above or below the left arm from face on view at halfway back, right forearm parrallel to the ground, Top, and/or End.
To clarify variable.......I believe one variable would be pivot.
Thanks in advance for your answers as I try to learn more through teaching and my study on Lynn Blake Golf.
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I wonder if EA has a 'signature' right elbow position...
Assuming the left arm is fairly straight, I would imagine the right elbow position would go hand in hand with how steep or flat your plane is, but thats about it.
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