LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - pivot controlled hands elbow plane a subconscious procedure? Thread: pivot controlled hands elbow plane a subconscious procedure? View Single Post #32 09-02-2010, 02:39 PM BerntR Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 981 whip, I think the right shoulder and the axis tilt basically plays the same role on EP as on TSP even though the geometry is slightly different. You basically bring the arms back to a place where everything is well connected (whether you're a TSP-er or an EP-er). From there, the EP-er goes deeper with the right shoulder due to more increase in lateral bend of the spine. No independent arms motion until later in the down swing - much later than if you swing on the TSP and throw the right arm off the chest during transition. __________________ Best regards, Bernt BerntR View Public Profile Send a private message to BerntR Find all posts by BerntR