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Old 05-05-2010, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by BerntR View Post

I don't know if OB Left has chosen his frasing " Hands to pivot" with care, but I find that more precise than "Hands controlled pivot".


To me the phrases are one and the same. "The Hands are not educated until they control the pivot."

When I bend over to pick something up off the ground, I am conscious of my hand going to the object, somewhat. But my mind is not in my pivot..... unless my back is killing me that day. The amount of waist bend is controlled by the brain naturally, automatically and this would be another common example of Hands to Pivot or Hands controlled Pivot. The pivot or body enables, facilitates as the hand seeks its target. Now say, for some strange reason I decide to try to pick that object up by putting my mind in my waist bend and locking the arm into some fixed relationship with my waist..........that would be Pivot to Hand. Not very natural , not very accurate either. This is the Shoulder Turn Takeaway analogy. The former has a Pivot , which may even proceed the Hand's active seeking of its Path sequencially.

I suppose you could think about both Pivot and Hand but....that would detract from your control over hand path wouldnt it? Maybe during Pivot training it would be necessary, but once trained let it go. That would be the ideal anyways to my mind.

Bernt, I know what you mean, maybe we're splitting hairs but I think the Hands could fix a Pivot problem. Ive often been searching for something out on the course, trying different things, mostly futile, only to get mad and put my brain in my hands, in my pressure points and to great effect. Its a lesson I keep relearning, actually.

"Grip it and rip it", isnt as stupid as it may sound if you also "direct it".


In regard to Plane Shifting. Homer thought that Plane Shifting was hazardous but once learned, if properly executed was just as effective mechanically. The loss of the Plane Line however, a bent plane line, has implications to the geometry of impact. Bad ones. Hence, 1-L-18.

Last edited by O.B.Left : 05-05-2010 at 10:30 AM.
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