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Old 03-25-2010, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Hey Partick...

result of a better clubhead orbit geometry...is getting better. You arent Steering the club...


Thanks, OB. This is very interesting. Let me try out my understanding of geometry on these insights of yours."Orbit," OB, is a great term. Let me change the term to "trajectory" to cover my question. The orbit or trajectory of the clubhead coming from an underhanded toss must be at a less severe angle than a punch elbow (unless a person is playing a particular low flying shot). In other words, the trajectory of a traced swing impacts the golf ball at a closer to horizontal direction than a punch or pitch motion. Those motions involve a trajectory that both horizontally and vertically compresses the ball in a different type of equal and opposite reactions to that type of contact.


- The Machine 1-L-15 "The club starts up-and-in after Low Point but the thrust continues down plane during Follow Through". Meaning that though the clubshaft (or pp#3) traces the straight line Plane Line and the clubhead moves up and in post low point, the thrust of the right arm, be it passive as in Swinging or Active as in Hitting continues down plane and therefor out towards the plane line until the right arm is straight. Follow Through. This is "going all the way down" to my mind. So thrust is cross line and the delivery line of the clubhead and the delivery line of the hands is inside out. Getting to Both ARms Straight completes the Orbit and the ball really likes that. Compression plus. A non bent plane line.

Thrust is a real force which compresses the golf ball. Thrust is not the club head material stiking the ball. Thrust rides along with the clubhead material striking the ball. I believe the thrusting force of a swing is different in nature than the thrusting force of a hit. The "throwing out" force of the swinger has different directional features than the striking force of a hitter. The measured power may be similar in both cases but the resulting impacts must be different.

-Hitting makes this cross line thrust of the right arm and getting to both arms straight more apparent. The fact you say Yoda looked like he was extending his right arm in a linear way suggests Hitting to me. This would be Push Basic 10-3-C Major Basic Stroke. A hitting procedure but for short shots only. Long shots having a different arm motion employing a non linear, fanning and bending Right Arm Motion. I dont know what film you were looking at but if it is Alignment Golf with VJ Trolio. From memory Id say VJ was demonstrating Push Basic, but not Lynn. There is a little fanning in there I believe.

Here is the video I was studying, OB, at about the middle of the video.
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...5&video_id=139
What if I lengthened my clubs and shortened my tripod which is exactly my situation? Couldn't I simply punch shot punch bug buggy my way around the universe with more dependable and effective power than any similarly conditioned 53 year old person?

-Which brings me a point I got stuck on and maybe you are too, if I read you correctly. I mistakenly tried to make all hitting shots a linear Push Basic type deal which set me back some. See the Major and Minor Strokes 10-3. The Arm Motion when seen in isolation changes as the stoke lengthens. For longer shots you must fan and bend the right arm, like a side arm throw , like skipping a stone or maybe a slightly more linear fish spearing. The Hitter with a Punch 10-3-A Elbow, the Swingers Pitch 10-3-B Elbow. See this video here of Yoda and watch the right arm only motion he displays towards the end of it. He maybe wasnt expecting us to look at this microscopically or anything but it sure isnt a Push Basic linear motion for hitting is it? No Sir.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p....-Hitting.html
These are mistakes I think a lot of people will enjoy making based on their golf shot education level,course, and playing conditions. This temptation is natural to TGM because these observations are so powerfully effective. We all naturally search for the limits of a very good thing. I would still be eating ribeyes if someone had not offerd me a lobster tail or a toasted meatball sub or a chicken Ceasar salad. I really do not want to use a punch shot for 100 yards and in, I think (though I'm willing to experiment).


I love that zeroed out accumulator in my left palm as a ticket to controlling the distance of a soft landing, high-flying pitch or chip with a vertical club face. I'm just really excited about out-driving opponents with every club when appropriate using the "minor to you, major to me" punch shot that is a thrust and not a trace.


OB, I do believe you have explained why I was pushing lots of shots last weekend and lots of cool stuff that will help me shoot lower scores. Thanks.
Patrick
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