[Mike O]

Dear Phillygolf,

Forgive me for stating the obvious, but if the Clubface is already square to the Plane Line (Facing the Ball during the Release) Then the Hands have been Rolled prior to (#3 before #2) Uncocking the Left Wrist. Possibly, your confusion comes from thinking that individual Wrist and hand motions and Pivot are the same thing. Allow me to explain.

Daryl,
You switched it up a little bit- the prior post was referring to when the clubface points at the plane line- but the above quote states square to the plane line and further clarifies that to mean pointing at the ball. Not sure how you invision the clubface square to the plane line AND looking at the ball?

The release can start anywhere from the earliest part of the downswing to the last instant before impact- not sure where you are invisioning this release taking place where the clubface is "square to the plane line".

When you say the clubface- the amount of loft would influence when it would or could point at the plane line. If I was laying open a sandwedge out of the bunker- the face might point at the ball at the top of the swing.

I guess I'd need to see a picture of a golfer - where as you describe the face is pointing at the ball during release- and see what that looks like. Not sure anyone would do that during the period of the downswing where the shaft is parallel to the ground or any point after that - until impact- unless you're talking about a unique short shot around the green.

It's all confusing to me.

Although I would say that unlikely as it may sound- Phillygolf is correct in that a sequenced release (whether for a straight ball, slice, hook) is defined by the timing sequence of the accumulators #2 and #3. Clubface orientation is a completely separate issue.