[neil]

thanks fella's. So in conclusion you feel that the ball will move left to right in the air? I am not sure because the face was closed at impact and there is some research being done on this at the moment. A more normal situation would be the person who arrives at impact with an open face and during impact the face is closing while the ball is on it.
Another one for you. How do golf machine instructors teach ball below/ ball above the feet? The lie of the club/face tilt seems to be a big factor to me.
thanks in advance
Gordon Morrison

The more lofted the club the more directional deviation for uphill (going left)or downhill(going right)lies.