Dude . . . keep up goat humping and you got no chance of hitting either one . . . . No chance of getting on the proper delivery line . . . . . Work on that first then worry about the theory stuff. You may intend to do one or the other but if your hands are that far out . . . you're basically off the plane angle and plane line.
Where do you club and hands generally "exit" on the thru side? High?
Buck, how does the release of the Hips differ from the hump for the MORAD or S&T guys?
I feel strangely united to others...like I am part of something historic, special. It is not agina. I know what that is!
Originally Posted by O.B.Left
Nice. The Delivery Path of the Hands like the Delivery Line of the Clubhead approaches Impact from the inside........inside to out as it must assuming they are traveling down an inclined Plane. Think about it from a down the line perspective. To go DOWN plane is to go OUT for all but perfectly vertical planes. This in to out path of the Hands needs a lane way cleared by the right hip or the brain will re direct the Hands out and around the "stuck right hip"......"roundhousing" resulting, divots pointed to the left , shanks etc. All due to the loss of the correct Angle of Approach and the proper Line of Compression. Read 2-C-0 to see how you need to take the ball DOWN and OUT not just FORWARD to hit it straight and long. Impact is ideally Three Dimensional. Down, Out and Forward. It'll seem cross line to the newly initiated but it will/should produce a straight divot. Keep thrusting down and out till the divots stop pointing to the left. If you dont feel like you are thrusting down and out , assume you arent.
The blur of the clubhead does not point at the target! No Sir!
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Dude , what the heck is agina? You mean like chest pain? I get that sometimes when Im reading D's posts. Like my heart aint got enough oxygen or something.
My presupposition is that Leadbetter/Haney/Harmon, McClain, and every popular teacher and great player can be discussed in relation to TGM as having done several things HK would agree with. Sometimes, those translators of golfing truth use a different way to illustrate golfing insights that I find easier to apprehend and assimilate.
I want to learn how TGM describes these insights and then we can go back in time and better understand the champions of old like old Tom Morris or Bobby Jones.
In Nick Faldo's "Golf-The Winning Formula," Nick Faldo (Leadbetter,pp.88-90), describes 3 ways to "Reverse the Swing." The first is "to feel the left shoulder rise." The second is the "bringing the back elbow down and in." The third, "and only for the most advanced player," is to feel the left knee seperate from the right.
I asked my GSEB about this, today, as he instructed me to come to "neutral knees," before "hitting the ball with my hips." So I noticed the left knee move and asked.
As I practiced coming to neutral, the ball compressed differently and travelled low before climbing the hill to apex and landing softly. It made a different compressing sound and felt effortless.
Why is such a little move so radically effective?
Originally Posted by O.B.Left
You've really hit on an interesting thing here. Somebody wake Bucket up, we'll be talking goat humping here.
If you Slide, 10-14-B (but please dont look at the photos, they've really got to go) parallel to the Angle Of Approach as opposed to parallel to the Arc of Approach your weight will go out over your left toes. (If you're useing the Arc and Slide parallel to it , then your weigth will be less on your toes)
Now if you leave your weight on the toes and then Turn on top of that , you have moved your center of gravity closer to the ball! Another form of the Goat Hump sort of, which can also move the left shoulder, closer to the ball giving you some Radius issues.
So you gotta get your weight off your toes while your turning to keep your "ass on the glass".
Somethin Ted told me about.
"Swinging from the feet" or ground is kinda something different, see 6-M-1 The Downswing Sequence.
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In Nick Faldo's "Golf-The Winning Formula," Nick Faldo (Leadbetter,pp.88-90), describes 3 ways to "Reverse the Swing." The first is "to feel the left shoulder rise." The second is the "bringing the back elbow down and in." The third, "and only for the most advanced player," is to feel the left knee seperate from the right.
I like that book but Homer had it right and so many years before as well. Its sort of sad that most people couldnt get his book. Anyways, all of those "ways" are really things that happen when reversing the swing, but in sequence. They are not initial moves or whatever. I would suggest that given 6-M-1 its ground up, like Hogan suggested , but with the proviso that it is the Hips that make the Knees appear to do what they do......with the exception of maybe a little left leg extension.
Thanks, OB. That is really reinforcing my lessons.
I agree with the idea that most golfing instruction is simply a more colorful meditation on a limited part of TGM.
OB, with your TGM background and effective golfing TQ, how did you learn the "comming to neutral " move? How did you realize that part of TGM was important and how did you learn to do it repeatedly, effectively?
Thanks btw.
Pat
Originally Posted by O.B.Left
I like that book but Homer had it right and so many years before as well. Its sort of sad that most people couldnt get his book. Anyways, all of those "ways" are really things that happen when reversing the swing, but in sequence. They are not initial moves or whatever. I would suggest that given 6-M-1 its ground up, like Hogan suggested , but with the proviso that it is the Hips that make the Knees appear to do what they do......with the exception of maybe a little left leg extension.
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I read it in between fights at school. When my instructor talks about a part, I read it . When you fellas talk about a part, I read that! I would also rather read this forum and take TGM lessons. When I read the book, it is disorientating. Still, I will do it this summer using two copies so I can have a ready reference.
Moi
Originally Posted by Daryl
Someone has got to give "City" a Yellow Book.
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