I have watched the TT videos on this site and they, like so many other pieces from various sites, have helped in my understanding of TGM. I only know what someone says by what they write or put up in video form.
Homer was very clear with what he wrote and said, as I am sure TT was. The greatest teachers in the world usually find a pattern they like and stick with it. Many of them use "feel" as their framework, not mechanics.
As a swinger I often use the "feel" of my arms to start the downstroke. I have even used and early uncocking of my wrists to start the downstroke. Some days I feel like a hitter (yes Ted) and sometimes a pure swing. The trick is to use our TGM knowlege to let the mechanics produce a feel that is workable for that day.
The key is the proper sequencing. This does not mean the sequencing of the release, but more the coordinated motion of the pivot components as to not disrupt the power package delivery. My pivot will tend to be to strong and uncoordinated so i must use a "zero Pivot feel" to get my rhythm back. Does this mean that my arms actually start the downswing, NO!!!!! This simply means that I have used my educated hands to control my pivot period.
In one of TT's videos he said to start the arms and watch the legs get out of the way. I agree, but only to the point that his pivot was already coordinated. I can start my arms and my legs will do nothing IF I tell them to do nothing.
The swing is to quick to get the proper feel of what is actually happening. 3-D proves this point. My hips fire very fast when I am on my knees and I feel like there is no motion at all.
Let's all agree that Ted and Lynn are very smart dudes. Let's also agree that TT, Delaware Golf, and even Brian Manzella are very smart dudes. Let's all agree that Homer was smarter than all of us and He is proven daily with the best technology. We can split hairs if we like, but in the end What do we do to improve the everyday golfer?
I choose not to post much because I am not very smart and I do not want to come across as ignorant. I can't site the book verbatim like many of you, and I wish I could. I know how to use the book for my benefit and for my students'. I KNOW THAT THE MECHANICS PRODUCE FEEL AND FEEL REPRODUCES MECHANICS. The 3-D stuff is like video, it can support or destroy anything. Take a person like me and tell me to work my hips faster and I am dead. However, use that information to expain to me the proper sequence of the kinetic linking, I can and will find my own way to get it done with my feel.
I know Ted is correct because he is quoting Homer. I also know that TT is correct because he had success with many players. I just want to learn. So let's quit all the BITCHING!
I have watched the TT videos on this site and they, like so many other pieces from various sites, have helped in my understanding of TGM. I only know what someone says by what they write or put up in video form.
Homer was very clear with what he wrote and said, as I am sure TT was. The greatest teachers in the world usually find a pattern they like and stick with it. Many of them use "feel" as their framework, not mechanics.
As a swinger I often use the "feel" of my arms to start the downstroke. I have even used and early uncocking of my wrists to start the downstroke. Some days I feel like a hitter (yes Ted) and sometimes a pure swing. The trick is to use our TGM knowlege to let the mechanics produce a feel that is workable for that day.
The key is the proper sequencing. This does not mean the sequencing of the release, but more the coordinated motion of the pivot components as to not disrupt the power package delivery. My pivot will tend to be to strong and uncoordinated so i must use a "zero Pivot feel" to get my rhythm back. Does this mean that my arms actually start the downswing, NO!!!!! This simply means that I have used my educated hands to control my pivot period.
In one of TT's videos he said to start the arms and watch the legs get out of the way. I agree, but only to the point that his pivot was already coordinated. I can start my arms and my legs will do nothing IF I tell them to do nothing.
The swing is to quick to get the proper feel of what is actually happening. 3-D proves this point. My hips fire very fast when I am on my knees and I feel like there is no motion at all.
Let's all agree that Ted and Lynn are very smart dudes. Let's also agree that TT, Delaware Golf, and even Brian Manzella are very smart dudes. Let's all agree that Homer was smarter than all of us and He is proven daily with the best technology. We can split hairs if we like, but in the end What do we do to improve the everyday golfer?
I choose not to post much because I am not very smart and I do not want to come across as ignorant. I can't site the book verbatim like many of you, and I wish I could. I know how to use the book for my benefit and for my students'. I KNOW THAT THE MECHANICS PRODUCE FEEL AND FEEL REPRODUCES MECHANICS. The 3-D stuff is like video, it can support or destroy anything. Take a person like me and tell me to work my hips faster and I am dead. However, use that information to expain to me the proper sequence of the kinetic linking, I can and will find my own way to get it done with my feel.
I know Ted is correct because he is quoting Homer. I also know that TT is correct because he had success with many players. I just want to learn. So let's quit all the BITCHING!
Do not get the little travelocity guy mad folks!!!
I have to agree with Jeff in the fact that more arguements are made on feel than anything else in golfdom. Learn the mechanics, then learn your feel from those mechanics. Look, Look, Look, and hope you know what your looking for!!!
I have watched the TT videos on this site and they, like so many other pieces from various sites, have helped in my understanding of TGM. I only know what someone says by what they write or put up in video form.
Homer was very clear with what he wrote and said, as I am sure TT was. The greatest teachers in the world usually find a pattern they like and stick with it. Many of them use "feel" as their framework, not mechanics.
As a swinger I often use the "feel" of my arms to start the downstroke. I have even used and early uncocking of my wrists to start the downstroke. Some days I feel like a hitter (yes Ted) and sometimes a pure swing. The trick is to use our TGM knowlege to let the mechanics produce a feel that is workable for that day.
The key is the proper sequencing. This does not mean the sequencing of the release, but more the coordinated motion of the pivot components as to not disrupt the power package delivery. My pivot will tend to be to strong and uncoordinated so i must use a "zero Pivot feel" to get my rhythm back. Does this mean that my arms actually start the downswing, NO!!!!! This simply means that I have used my educated hands to control my pivot period.
In one of TT's videos he said to start the arms and watch the legs get out of the way. I agree, but only to the point that his pivot was already coordinated. I can start my arms and my legs will do nothing IF I tell them to do nothing.
The swing is to quick to get the proper feel of what is actually happening. 3-D proves this point. My hips fire very fast when I am on my knees and I feel like there is no motion at all.
Let's all agree that Ted and Lynn are very smart dudes. Let's also agree that TT, Delaware Golf, and even Brian Manzella are very smart dudes. Let's all agree that Homer was smarter than all of us and He is proven daily with the best technology. We can split hairs if we like, but in the end What do we do to improve the everyday golfer?
I choose not to post much because I am not very smart and I do not want to come across as ignorant. I can't site the book verbatim like many of you, and I wish I could. I know how to use the book for my benefit and for my students'. I KNOW THAT THE MECHANICS PRODUCE FEEL AND FEEL REPRODUCES MECHANICS. The 3-D stuff is like video, it can support or destroy anything. Take a person like me and tell me to work my hips faster and I am dead. However, use that information to expain to me the proper sequence of the kinetic linking, I can and will find my own way to get it done with my feel.
I know Ted is correct because he is quoting Homer. I also know that TT is correct because he had success with many players. I just want to learn. So let's quit all the BITCHING!
I am still waiting for the dvd´s, they will be delivered any day now. This will be interesting, especially after reading all positive post about it.
2 things come to my mind;
1/ In another thread I posted that THE MAN to thank at present time is Mr. Blake!!
His generousity to accept video of other TGM-interpreters on "The Gallery" is remarkable. Name any other site-owner that would do the same.........
2/ I dont know if you have heard the joke about the french prostitute, where the punch line is " I can understand the situation but not the problem?"
I ask you gents the same - WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?
TT, Mr. Doyle, Mr. Tomasello, Mr. Fort, Mr. Blake....well whichever AI you could think of, no matter if they did meet Mr. Kelley or not, has all one thing in common......
To get the student to CONTROLL THE 3 FUNCTIONS!!
How ?
It´s up to the AI.
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I have watched the TT videos on this site and they, like so many other pieces from various sites, have helped in my understanding of TGM. I only know what someone says by what they write or put up in video form.
Homer was very clear with what he wrote and said, as I am sure TT was. The greatest teachers in the world usually find a pattern they like and stick with it. Many of them use "feel" as their framework, not mechanics.
As a swinger I often use the "feel" of my arms to start the downstroke. I have even used and early uncocking of my wrists to start the downstroke. Some days I feel like a hitter (yes Ted) and sometimes a pure swing. The trick is to use our TGM knowlege to let the mechanics produce a feel that is workable for that day.
The key is the proper sequencing. This does not mean the sequencing of the release, but more the coordinated motion of the pivot components as to not disrupt the power package delivery. My pivot will tend to be to strong and uncoordinated so i must use a "zero Pivot feel" to get my rhythm back. Does this mean that my arms actually start the downswing, NO!!!!! This simply means that I have used my educated hands to control my pivot period.
In one of TT's videos he said to start the arms and watch the legs get out of the way. I agree, but only to the point that his pivot was already coordinated. I can start my arms and my legs will do nothing IF I tell them to do nothing.
The swing is to quick to get the proper feel of what is actually happening. 3-D proves this point. My hips fire very fast when I am on my knees and I feel like there is no motion at all.
Let's all agree that Ted and Lynn are very smart dudes. Let's also agree that TT, Delaware Golf, and even Brian Manzella are very smart dudes. Let's all agree that Homer was smarter than all of us and He is proven daily with the best technology. We can split hairs if we like, but in the end What do we do to improve the everyday golfer?
I choose not to post much because I am not very smart and I do not want to come across as ignorant. I can't site the book verbatim like many of you, and I wish I could. I know how to use the book for my benefit and for my students'. I KNOW THAT THE MECHANICS PRODUCE FEEL AND FEEL REPRODUCES MECHANICS. The 3-D stuff is like video, it can support or destroy anything. Take a person like me and tell me to work my hips faster and I am dead. However, use that information to expain to me the proper sequence of the kinetic linking, I can and will find my own way to get it done with my feel.
I know Ted is correct because he is quoting Homer. I also know that TT is correct because he had success with many players. I just want to learn. So let's quit all the BITCHING!
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