I think there is a GINORMOUS connection between Pace and Rhythm. Handspeed, fast or slow, relative to clubhead speed is exponentially slower. The surface speed is a result of an extention of the Primary Lever Assembly . . . thereby increasing from a small radius (cocked) to a large radius (uncocking). This increase in radius from the extention of the lever assembly results major velocity . . . but ideally not to the detriment of Rhythm with the Left Arm Flying Wedge and its Flat Left Wrist in tact . . . so surface speed is increasing dramatically but the RPM is the same . . . Law of the Flail.
So the hands can move slow (Pace) but the clubhead can move real fast (surface speed).
Me thinks Bucket doth protest too much!
Seems to me that we are saying the same thing.
You speak of Rhythm plus extention of the lever assembly resulting in major velocity - so surface speed is increasing dramatically but the RPM is the same . . . Law of the Flail.
I said that the invoking of Trigger Delay brought about the same result - an increase in Clubhead speed over the Rhythmic motion of the hands - i.e handle moving rhythmically being overtaken by the more pacey swingle.
Maintenance of a constant rhythm, even with a flail, would always prevent the swingle from catching up with, let alone being overtaken by an increase in Pace, the swingle.
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Last edited by 12 piece bucket : 05-19-2007 at 09:15 PM.
You speak of Rhythm plus extention of the lever assembly resulting in major velocity - so surface speed is increasing dramatically but the RPM is the same . . . Law of the Flail.
I said that the invoking of Trigger Delay brought about the same result - an increase in Clubhead speed over the Rhythmic motion of the hands - i.e handle moving rhythmically being overtaken by the more pacey swingle.
Maintenance of a constant rhythm, even with a flail, would always prevent the swingle from catching up with, let alone being overtaken by an increase in Pace, the swingle.
Sounds pretty much the same to me based on the above . . . define swingle as a body part . . . Mike O don't you even think of touching that (no pun intended).
Nahhh, I'm not wound up. Just giving you a hard time to draw out some clarity in definition. You need someone besides MikeO to mess with you.
Rhythm is holding the left arm and clubshaft at the same RPM throughout the stroke while the flail allows the overtaking of components at an even rate. Can we call this "constant hand speed"?
Why can't we just say "Tempo"?
Why did Homer use the term Rhythm instead of Tempo?
Tempo is the overall speed of a pattern.
Rhythm is group of timing intervals. The intervals may be even or uneven.
Tempo can consist of multiple rhythmic patterns.
What about Pace?
Pace is a measure of speed.
I'm not a musician, but I'm certain there are direct analogies for Pace, Rhythm and Tempo.
I knowed you was just fooling around . . . and me and Mikey REALLY DO HATE each other . . . ever since the time he was pullin' wings off of butterflies and then stickin' 'em in his nose.
I think Mr. K equated pace with hand speed . . . . could be wrong.
And as far as constant speed . . . it could be constant fast or constant slow right? And I think that one works better for big pulleys and one works better for small ones.
Do y'all se a connection to all these items? I think there is a HUGE connection here that Homer understood. In particular the difference between pace and Rhythm as in Golfing Machine rhythm. They are DIFFERENT . . . but at the same time there is a connection in my mind.
What do y'all think? Let's talk.
There is a huge connection among those things, yet, you'd better leave them along. Because they are govered by "LAW".
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"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
"Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn. Bend the shaft.
There is a huge connection among those things, yet, you'd better leave them along. Because they are govered by "LAW".
BTS,
Good point - glad you brought it up.
How do you build your pattern? How do you know if you are mixing the wrong components that are compatible, i.e. within "LAW"?
Don't take this the wrong way, but if we left things alone because they are LAW, I think we would still be living in caves. But then again, sometimes things are "so simple even a caveman can do it."
(It's a Geico insurance commercial tagline we have in the States. I had to insert that for Buckets benefit.)
I'm getting off topic but this would make a good thread in "The Lab"
Universal laws and principles must be understood and tested. Their boundries explored and relationships to each other comprehended. Laws and Principles - Different but related. Is Centrifugal Force a law or principle? Should you tell a Hitter to use Centrifugal Force?
This isn't about metaphysics, it's basic science.
Then they can be used for a purpose and yes, even manipulated.
Another thread.
Bucket,
Homer mentions the need for fast hands in 7-18, but that is in relation to a larger #3 angle and circle path. Slower hands being effective for straight line delivery with small #3 angle for a snap release.
What about all these boys on TOUR with big ole #3 angles trying to rip the ball with fast hands. Are they more inclined to be circle pathers?
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See Bucket, there you go. EdZ understands. He gets it. (at least I think you do).
"What does he get Bagger?"
Well Jay Stewart, EdZ gets a 20 oz. Dry-Aged Texas Ribeye complete with a 16 oz bottle of PACE sauce!
"Huh...Bagger...EdZ is vegan."
Oh...what do we have for backup?
"Well Bagger, there's a hundred pound sack of Collard Greens"
Ed, you've won a 100 pound bag of greens along with a bottle of PACE sauce!
Is there an error in the Glossary definition of Pace?
PACE Example – walking vs. running.
Mechanical – The miles per hour (MPH) of a moving body.
Golf – The surface speed of the orbiting Clubhead as differentiated from Rhythm.
Whoever is wrong has to shave their head.
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Collard Greens..... hmmmm.... I'll take the steak and let Mike O. shave Bucket's head!
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Sounds pretty much the same to me based on the above . . . define swingle as a body part . . . Mike O don't you even think of touching that (no pun intended).
The swingle is not a body part; it is the clubshaft.
The handle is the left arm.
The Thong (don't get carried away with this word) is the left wrist.
The Rhythmic motion of the arm, or handle, when subjected to the non-automatic, delayed, trigger release of the hinge, or thong, would allow the extremity of the swingle, the clubhead, to gain in Pace.
The swingle is not a body part; it is the clubshaft.
The handle is the left arm.
The Thong (don't get carried away with this word) is the left wrist.
The Rhythmic motion of the arm, or handle, when subjected to the non-automatic, delayed, trigger release of the hinge, or thong, would allow the extremity of the swingle, the clubhead, to gain in Pace.
I think.
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1-H "Because of questions of all kinds, reams of additional detail must be made available - but separately, and probably endlessly." Homer Kelly
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