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Old 10-09-2006, 02:39 AM
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Tomasello: I loaned them to a very dear friend of mine who owns a TV station in New York and he is making copies of these tapes right now for posterity. But its Homer’s very first class for authorized instructors…and there was three of us there, see. .and I taped all of our sessions and I…and I gott’em on tape see…
Homer Kelley lived to conduct three Golf Stroke Engineering Master (GSEM) classes for Authorized Instructors. Tom Tomasello taped the first. I taped the last. By extreme good fortune, I happen to possess not only my own recordings, but also each of the others.

We all know 'the book' is difficult -- even inaccessible -- without the keys to its understanding. But when the door is unlocked, the Game holds no greater treasure. To that end, we all need a guide -- I certainly did -- else the entry is forever sealed. And that is why I write every day: To help you bridge the gap.

But the journey tests us all, and many are lost along the way. This includes those whose egos demand that they reject TGM when it doesn't support their own unsound procedures. Here is what Homer had to say about them:

"Golfing Machine terminology is being bandied about more and more, so we must guard against the tendency of misuse to put it in disrepute. Key your rebuttal to intent. For instance -- in these early days especially, the neophytes will tend to fill in those 'grey areas' with their own little compensations during those 'Absorbing' and 'Incubating' stages, and because they are pleased with their new skill, tend to tout them as acceptable, workable alternatives to the Machine procedures. Just suggest that they check that out again in the book. Because it doesn't sound quite right. That is -- help the struggler and the curious...but shun the scorner."

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Old 10-09-2006, 11:24 PM
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Homer Kelley lived to conduct three Golf Stroke Engineering Master (GSEM) classes for Authorized Instructors. Tom Tomasello taped the first. I taped the last. By extreme good fortune, I happen to possess not only my own recordings, but also each of the others.

We all know 'the book' is difficult -- even inaccessible -- without the keys to its understanding. But when the door is unlocked, the Game holds no greater treasure. To that end, we all need a guide -- I certainly did -- else the entry is forever sealed. And that is why I write every day: To help you bridge the gap.

But the journey tests us all, and many are lost along the way. This includes those whose egos demand that they reject TGM when it doesn't support their own unsound procedures. Here is what Homer had to say about them:

"Golfing Machine terminology is being bandied about more and more, so we must guard against the tendency of misuse to put it in disrepute. Key your rebuttal to intent. For instance -- in these early days especially, the neophytes will tend to fill in those 'grey areas' with their own little compensations during those 'Absorbing' and 'Incubating' stages, and because they are pleased with their new skill, tend to tout them as acceptable, workable alternatives to the Machine procedures. Just suggest that they check that out again in the book. Because it doesn't sound quite right. That is -- help the struggler and the curious...but shun the scorner."

G.O.L.F. Bulletin, The Amber Spotlight, April 1982

Thanks DG for another excerpt...keep them coming...and thanks Yoda for keeping the lights on...the truth is sometimes hard to get at...please keep helping us thru the maze...the doors seem to get easier to open as you pass from one to the other.
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Thank you DG. Really good stuff.
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Old 10-13-2006, 02:15 PM
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I don't agree with you on the Mark Evershed topspin (he is not doing anything different than Tomasello during impact)...what you're calling topspin is impact swivel or what Hogan called supination...it's what turns a 5 iron into a 4 iron...Evershed hit's down on the ball like Tomasello...both are proceducing high penerating shots. Equal and opposite reaction...

In my 3-day school we worked on something similiar to the vertical drop...Tomasello called it swinging without power. He just wanted you to get the feel of the right forearm starting the downswing...having the right arm drop while the right elbow uncocked. very little driving action and speed...while at the same time getting a feel for what the pivot was doing. More distance...just increase the speed of the whole procedure...as Tommy would say...Wip It and Zip It. Or better yet, just Karate chop it with the right forearm...Study tape #2 of the Deitrick Letter series...

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DG - would you agree that Evershed is basically focused on a 'true' horizontal hinge motion? (his CCC) I like his visual of it from overhead, very much the 'feel' IMO to what a split grip drill shows, and IMO one of the areas Ballard was really getting at (even though I don't think he described it well).
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Old 10-14-2006, 12:25 AM
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DG - would you agree that Evershed is basically focused on a 'true' horizontal hinge motion? (his CCC) I like his visual of it from overhead, very much the 'feel' IMO to what a split grip drill shows, and IMO one of the areas Ballard was really getting at (even though I don't think he described it well).
EdZ and DG. I don't mean to butt in on your exchange but I want to add my observations. I have some of Evershed's stuff and what I think he is trying to impart, besides the 3 imperatives, is...

1-Delivery Line-Prep-Roll
2-Horizontal Hinge
3-FINISH SWIVEL

Evershed is always talking about keeping the hands moving left with a flat left and bent right wrist. A flowing motion. EdZ, are the three points I mentioned above your "true horizontal hinge motion"?

DG,is Tomasellos pattern actually a 4 barrel stroke variation?
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Old 10-14-2006, 01:00 PM
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True horizontal hinge as distinguished from swivel as hinge action. I don't really see much emphasis on your points 1 and 3 in the material I have seen - mostly the focus is bent right/flat left. Clearly he is familiar with the machine, and acknowledges Homer and TT, so I'm not suggesting he ignores those important points at all. I like his 'six minute' guide. A good reference to TGM concepts.
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I tried a Right Arm Swing a few days ago...

Worked pretty well.

Not inspiring enough to put in the full time you say is needed for full results tho.

But it worked well I'll say and does seem to be a valid way of playing....I hadn't experimented with it in a while.

(not sure of the tendon damage still tho...I felt nothing but only used it briefly)
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DG,

Realy really neat stuff.
Please keep em coming.


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What is moving the left arm in that drill? It can't be Extensor Action.
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Originally Posted by Delaware Golf View Post
"Extensor Action gives an indispensable control to all Strokes". Homer Kelley 6-B-1-D.




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It gives structure.
"This stretches but does not move the Left Arm and produces a structural rigidity that is a strong deterrent to collapse under the stress of Acceleration and Impact." Homer Kelley per 6-B-1-D (my old screen name).
TT give the impression that the right arm piston action is Extension Action or at the very least failed to seperate the two forces- a in-line pull (stretch) on the left arm and the right arm push (drive) on the left arm. Two different things.

I have watched the series of clips several times. A fine introduction to TGM.
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