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Old 09-04-2008, 10:50 AM
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First up,I am totally TGM,make no mistake,my question is what do "other" golf teaching systems have that make their followers not want to embrace TGM.I mean,FLW ,lag,extensor action etc,etc.What other teaching principles do they employ that are so different to homers teachings.Thanks in advance
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:41 AM
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First up,I am totally TGM,make no mistake,my question is what do "other" golf teaching systems have that make their followers not want to embrace TGM.I mean,FLW ,lag,extensor action etc,etc.What other teaching principles do they employ that are so different to homers teachings.Thanks in advance
Jack Kuykendall does not believe anyone can even perform having a flat left wrist- let alone maintain one. He is a true Homer Kelley basher- he believes that a bend left arm is another lever as well as flipping he left wrist is another power lever. I got into an email conversation with him years ago. It fell apart the moment I answered his challenge questions he thought no one could. He told me he was a chronic flipper. He claims to be the greatest golf scientist/swing inventor in the world. He didn't even get Moe's swing right for Natural Golf. Pure Nut Job- There is one site that won't even print his name in fear of being sued by him for that very reason.

BTW- On Kuykendall's site where is bashes Homer, he lifted copyrighted images and diagrams from a physics book that I have in my library- It is a High School Physics book that non-college prep students learn from. Not exactly the stuff a self proclaimed genius would steal from. I got mine from a garage sale of an old science teacher in the neighborhood.

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Old 09-04-2008, 11:52 AM
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Many of the concepts Homer developed like Extensor Action, Flying Wedges, to name two, don't even exist in the outside golf world. Like a fish claiming jet aircraft can't fly- they aren't aware of flight. The outside Golfworld can't dispute something that doesn't exist in their kingdom. Most of the bashing comes from chalkboard amateur non-golfer physicists claiming Chapter two is wrong because it doesn't fit into Quantum Physics. Homer didn't write a golf swing science book- Homer wanted to improve golfers not write the end all to end all science golf books. Simple Newtonian laws of motion that exist even today in the new Quantum physics era post Einstein.
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Old 09-04-2008, 08:21 PM
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Jack Kuykendall does not believe anyone can even perform having a flat left wrist- let alone maintain one. He is a true Homer Kelley basher- he believes that a bend left arm is another lever as well as flipping he left wrist is another power lever. I got into an email conversation with him years ago. It fell apart the moment I answered his challenge questions he thought no one could. He told me he was a chronic flipper. He claims to be the greatest golf scientist/swing inventor in the world. He didn't even get Moe's swing right for Natural Golf. Pure Nut Job- There is one site that won't even print his name in fear of being sued by him for that very reason.

BTW- On Kuykendall's site where is bashes Homer, he lifted copyrighted images and diagrams from a physics book that I have in my library- It is a High School Physics book that non-college prep students learn from. Not exactly the stuff a self proclaimed genius would steal from. I got mine from a garage sale of an old science teacher in the neighborhood.

Mike, here's a little something you might enjoy.

http://www.kuysg.com/
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Old 09-04-2008, 08:25 PM
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Can't we limit our bashing to golf systems and not to golf professionals. Better yet why not discuss the pros and cons of TGM versus other methods in an intellectual manner and not bash at all
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Old 09-04-2008, 08:35 PM
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Can't we limit our bashing to golf systems and not to golf professionals. Better yet why not discuss the pros and cons of TGM versus other methods in an intellectual manner and not bash at all

Its hard to separate Kuykendall from his system. He is one of the original Kelley attackers since the internet became popular. To avoid his barbs without defense would be ludicrous.

We all know the merits of TGM and the joy Homer Kelley had in sharing it. It is about 180 degrees from what Jack is all about.

This is not a bash- just an HONEST assessment of what I know about him from former students, his web site, and my email conversation with him.
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Old 09-04-2008, 09:03 PM
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Can't we limit our bashing to golf systems and not to golf professionals. Better yet why not discuss the pros and cons of TGM versus other methods in an intellectual manner and not bash at all
Thanks and well said HG,thats exactly what Im after,comparisons between TGM and other.I read somewhere that TGM when it first came on the scene,it was branded "controversial"
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If any Admin wants to remove my posts please do- I did not post a single false word about Jack or his past history toward TGM. It sometimes pays to know the whole story. TGM was and still is "controversial" because of bashers like Jack keeping misconceptions alive. Sorry I upset everyone with some truth.
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Old 09-04-2008, 09:19 PM
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If any Admin wants to remove my posts please do- I did not post a single false word about Jack or his past history toward TGM. It sometimes pays to know the whole story. TGM was and still is "controversial" because of bashers like Jack keeping misconceptions alive. Sorry I upset everyone with some truth.
Thanks mike,I for one took no offence
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Thanks mike,I for one took no offence
Obviously, neither did I. Feel free to check out the link I listed in my post to Mike.
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