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02-16-2008, 04:26 AM
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02-16-2008, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by golfbulldog
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Why does the uncocking stop at level and then held in place at level whilst the swivel into impact occurs?
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Golfbulldog,
You asked the Magic question.
The Magic of the Right Forearm Question. Pass Go and collect 200 dollars. The Left Wrist is passing through its “Level” position at Impact.
Consider the Left Arm as a Rope tied to the Clubshaft at one end and Your Left Shoulder at the other.
All Left Wrist Action (Bending, Cocking, Rolling) is controlled by the Level and Bent Right Wrist and Right Elbow. From the Left Wrists point of view, it’s doing the Uncocking, but from the Right Elbows point of view, as it straightens, it Uncocks the Left Wrist. Therefore, fully Straightened Right Arm equals Uncocked Left Wrist. Following Impact, at full extension, both Arms are Straight but the Right Wrist has remained Level and Bent.
This is all in the Cliff Notes. Page 821 paragraph 16.  Illustration #549, the "Swingers Release Sequence" High Speed COLOR photo's should help to understand this better.
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02-16-2008, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
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Golfbulldog,
You asked the Magic question.
The Magic of the Right Forearm Question. Pass Go and collect 200 dollars. The Left Wrist is passing through its “Level” position at Impact.
Consider the Left Arm as a Rope tied to the Clubshaft at one end and Your Left Shoulder at the other.
All Left Wrist Action (Bending, Cocking, Rolling) is controlled by the Level and Bent Right Wrist and Right Elbow. From the Left Wrists point of view, it’s doing the Uncocking, but from the Right Elbows point of view, as it straightens, it Uncocks the Left Wrist. Therefore, fully Straightened Right Arm equals Uncocked Left Wrist. Following Impact, at full extension, both Arms are Straight but the Right Wrist has remained Level and Bent.
This is all in the Cliff Notes. Page 821 paragraph 16. Illustration #549, the "Swingers Release Sequence" High Speed COLOR photo's should help to understand this better.
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Ok Daryl - i think i see it...the left wrist is not uncocking in isolation... it is uncocking in concert with a straightening right elbow which is attached via a fixed and level right wrist...
Does that mean that is the right wrist were not level then the left wrist would not be level at impact too...or would that just be a timing issue and hence highly variable??
Lightbulb not fully on yet...but it has started to flicker...
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02-16-2008, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by golfbulldog
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Ok Daryl - i think i see it...the left wrist is not uncocking in isolation... it is uncocking in concert with a straightening right elbow which is attached via a fixed and level right wrist...
Does that mean that is the right wrist were not level then the left wrist would not be level at impact too...or would that just be a timing issue and hence highly variable??
Lightbulb not fully on yet...but it has started to flicker...
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Here’s another 100 volts to add to that light bulb.
If your Right Wrist is Level and Bent at Impact Fix and you return to impact with the same alignments, then, your Left Wrist will be identical to its alignments when it was at Impact Fix: Flat and Level. FLV/BLV
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02-16-2008, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
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Here’s another 100 volts to add to that light bulb.
If your Right Wrist is Level and Bent at Impact Fix and you return to impact with the same alignments, then, your Left Wrist will be identical to its alignments when it was at Impact Fix: Flat and Level. FLV/BLV
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And the right arm is not straight at impact. So the right elbow still has some uncocking of the FLW to do as it goes to followthru and both arms straight.
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02-16-2008, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by cometgolfer
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And the right arm is not straight at impact. So the right elbow still has some uncocking of the FLW to do as it goes to followthru and both arms straight.
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Good follow-up. 
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02-16-2008, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
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All Left Wrist Action (Bending, Cocking, Rolling) is controlled by the Level and Bent Right Wrist and Right Elbow. From the Left Wrists point of view, it’s doing the Uncocking, but from the Right Elbows point of view, as it straightens, it Uncocks the Left Wrist.
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Originally Posted by cometgolfer
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And the right arm is not straight at impact. So the right elbow still has some uncocking of the FLW to do as it goes to followthru and both arms straight.
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A hitter's left wrist is uncocked by the straightening right arm due to muscular thrust.
A swinger's left wrist is uncocked due to centrifugal force.
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02-16-2008, 01:58 PM
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making sense - thanks Daryl!
If you were to swing purely left armed ( like a right arm above elbow amputee) and you did a sequenced release ... then would the left wrist uncock fully ( ie. beyond level)...BEFORE it then rolled??
ie. it is only the impact fix "level" alignmnent of the right forearm/wrist that means that left wrist stops uncocking at level and then rolls? Is that correct?
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02-16-2008, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by golfbulldog
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making sense - thanks Daryl!
If you were to swing purely left armed ( like a right arm above elbow amputee) and you did a sequenced release ... then would the left wrist uncock fully ( ie. beyond level)...BEFORE it then rolled??
ie. it is only the impact fix "level" alignment of the right forearm/wrist that means that left wrist stops uncocking at level and then rolls? Is that correct?
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1. It must be very difficult for a Left Arm only Golfer. No magic of the Right Forearm to manage the Left Wrist. In the Book "The Search for the Perfect Swing" there was a one Arm Golfer who did very well but I don't remember Grip to Plane Geometry.
2. The Left Wrist doesn't 'stop uncocking' at Impact. The Left Wrist from Release to both Arms Straight continues to Uncock. The uncocking will pass through Level at Impact if your Right Wrist remains Level Throughout The Stroke and if it was Level at Impact Fix.
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02-16-2008, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by golfbulldog
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Is this a hint that there is new stuff being prepared ??
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It is. I'm polishing the polish - This is the biggest project yet. We'll be making an announcement soon.
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