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Old 02-15-2008, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bagger Lance View Post
Who said anything about zeroing out? Are you saying that #3 is inline when it gets zeroed out?

Don't confuse wristcock with the condition of the flat left wrist and #3 accumulator. They are mutually exclusive. I can see how your 10-2-D grip might make that confusing for you. Throwing the clubface at the ball makes life easier for knuckle draggers because you get to ignore rolling.

Even though the left wrist can be fully uncocked that doesn't change the fact that #3 is still in line, even though it gets zeroed out temporarily.
I may be a retard on this (among other things) but isn't the #3 Accumulator Angle set when the Left Wrist is in it's Level condition (all alignments stem from Impact).
The #3 Accumulator Angle is rolled through the impact interval but when (and if ) the Primary Lever goes to Full-Lever Extension then the #3 angle would be lost would it not?
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Old 02-15-2008, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
I may be a retard on this (among other things) but isn't the #3 Accumulator Angle set when the Left Wrist is in it's Level condition (all alignments stem from Impact).
The #3 Accumulator Angle is rolled through the impact interval but when (and if ) the Primary Lever goes to Full-Lever Extension then the #3 angle would be lost would it not?
Yes! 2-P and 6-B-3-0 but I think you are confusing "in line" with the angles. #3 is always in line assuming a geometrically correct flat left wrist.
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Old 02-15-2008, 12:27 PM
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If the #3 Accumulator is zeroed out, then would you agree with this statement?
At impact, the Clubhead traveling at a greater velocity than the Hands Only by Lever Extension. Remember that the "Golfers Flail" is held together with a 'Pin'.
Could someone please explain to me how the Uncocking Left Wrist produces Velocity while the Right Wrist remains Bent and Level? The Left Wrist is an out-of-line condition but Isn’t it true that the Straightening of the Right Elbow allows the Left Wrist to Uncock.
Never mind, I got it. Pivot Train, Uncocking Left Wrist and Left Shoulder Center of the Left Arm Arc develop Centrifugal Force. I'm now at peace with the universe.
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Old 02-15-2008, 12:32 PM
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Overlapping Accumulator Release
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At impact has the #2 accumulator (clubhead velocity accumulator) reached its full inline condition or is that a post impact condition?

Per 2-P, the Left Wrist is in its Level condition at Impact and reaches its maximum Uncocked condition (Full Extension) during the Follow-Through. To that degree, even for Swingers, the Release Motions (Uncock and Roll / 4-D-0) are Simultaneous, not Sequenced.
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Old 02-15-2008, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
Per 2-P, the Left Wrist is in its Level condition at Impact and reaches its maximum Uncocked condition (Full Extension) during the Follow-Through. To that degree, even for Swingers, the Release Motions (Uncock and Roll / 4-D-0) are Simultaneous, not Sequenced.
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Before I go back to my closet to finish off our videos , one more question along those lines.

If there is really no such thing as a true sequenced release where each accumulator reaches its inline condition prior to momentum transfer to the next, why does Homer differentiate between sequenced, overlapped and simultaneous? Shouldn't there just be overlapped and simultaneous release sequences?
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Per 2-P, the Left Wrist is in its Level condition at Impact and reaches its maximum Uncocked condition (Full Extension) during the Follow-Through. To that degree, even for Swingers, the Release Motions (Uncock and Roll / 4-D-0) are Simultaneous, not Sequenced.

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In Line In What Plane?
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Yoda mentioned "clubhead" condition at impact and it reads as "in line". He is of course talking about the "in line" condition of the #3 accumulator (transfer/roll power). So even though the clubhead is still uncocking through impact, the #3 accumulator is in line because it is the one accumulator that is always in that condition.
The Action of both the #2 and #3 Power Accumulators (Left Wrist Uncock and Roll) always occurs in the Plane of the Left Arm Flying Wedge (6-B-3-0-1). Thus, the Sweetspot and Left Arm are always aligned radially. This is true whether the Left Wrist is Cocked or Uncocked (a vertical motion within that Plane) and whether the #3 Angle exists or has been Zeroed.
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Old 02-15-2008, 01:58 PM
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Differentiating Release Motions -- Snap Roll Vs. Gradual
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If there is really no such thing as a true sequenced release where each accumulator reaches its inline condition prior to momentum transfer to the next, why does Homer differentiate between sequenced, overlapped and simultaneous? Shouldn't there just be overlapped and simultaneous release sequences?
The Swinger's Sequenced Release Motions -- Uncock to Level, then Snap Roll (from Turned to Vertical) into Impact -- brings the Cocked and Turned Left Wrist into Release with the Right Hand 'palm up' to the Plane (10-20-E). This produces the Maximum Power application of both the #2 and #3 Accumulators.

In contrast, the Hitter's Motions are Simultaneous -- Uncock to Level with a Simultaneous and Gradual Roll into Impact -- thereby forfeiting the Maximum Power of the Turned Left Wrist (#3 Accumulator / 6-B-3-A). The Hitter still enjoys the definite -- albeit gradual -- Overtaking Action of the #3 Accumulator. The lack of Snap Roll is overcome via the addition of Right Arm Thrust.

Summarizing, Homer Kelley felt the 'Sequenced vs. Simultaneous' differentiation was sufficient. Nevertheless, a total understanding of the Swinger's Sequenced Release includes "Sequenced to Impact (thereby gaining Maximum Transfer/Snap Roll Power); then, Simultaneous (thereby gaining Maximum Velocity/Full Extension Power)."
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoda
Per 2-P, the Left Wrist is in its Level condition at Impact and reaches its maximum Uncocked condition (Full Extension) during the Follow-Through. To that degree, even for Swingers, the Release Motions (Uncock and Roll / 4-D-0) are Simultaneous, not Sequenced. .
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You lacin' 'em up to fight MachinusMagnus??? Better get a good cut man . . .
Dear Mr. Bucket,

Nice try but:
Yoda’s statement is a semantic issue. You cannot use it to clarify your confusion and thus escape the consequences of a previous post in another thread. That would be using a misleading statement to correct one of your confused and bewildered claims.

The term Sequence applies to Releasing Actions in a definite order. The Uncocking Action and Rolling Action occur at different times and places. One Started before the other. However, once each has acted, and because they continue simultaneously, does not negate the fact that they began independently one before the other. Sequential Order of Release.

Perhaps if you're having difficulty, "Hitting" may be an option for you.
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Dear Mr. Bucket,

Nice try but:
Yoda’s statement is a semantic issue. You cannot use it to clarify your confusion and thus escape the consequences of a previous post in another thread. That would be using a misleading statement to correct one of your confused and bewildered claims.

The term Sequence applies to Releasing Actions in a definite order. The Uncocking Action and Rolling Action occur at different times and places. One Started before the other. However, once each has acted, and because they continue simultaneously, does not negate the fact that they began independently one before the other. Sequential Order of Release.

Perhaps if you're having difficulty, "Hitting" may be an option for you.
Boogerhead . . .

THE RELEASE APPROACHES SIMULTANEOUS THE MORE OVERLAP THERE IS.
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