ok ICT i'll play ..... 50 usd to your chosen charity says you don't play to standard scratch (think you call it the course rating) in 2011
Good luck - hope you get there
my goal is 3.0 hcp from 5.0
It is that time of year to be making some resolutions.
Last year I worked from a GHIN of 14.5 to a 7.7. This coming year I would like to get to a 4.
I am not betting against City, but I am pulling for him. I've seen that act and he will work his way to his goal. I wish he'd change it to a 3, though.
It is that time of year to be making some resolutions.
Last year I worked from a GHIN of 14.5 to a 7.7. This coming year I would like to get to a 4.
I am not betting against City, but I am pulling for him. I've seen that act and he will work his way to his goal. I wish he'd change it to a 3, though.
yes it is that time of the year, 14.5 to 7.7 was impressive, good luck with the new target
yes it is that time of the year, 14.5 to 7.7 was impressive, good luck with the new target
Very elegant "bets." Accepted! My final GHIN score was 10.1 and single digits was my goal.
I love win-win situations. I'm enjoying filtering Lynn's very subtle moves through the collective insights of "the Hat," and" Mr. Doyle."
Lynn is just so smooth in his moves!
I'm enjoying the winter break, too. We only had 12" of snow, last night so shoveling out was no biggie, today.
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
It is that time of year to be making some resolutions.
Last year I worked from a GHIN of 14.5 to a 7.7. This coming year I would like to get to a 4.
I am not betting against City, but I am pulling for him. I've seen that act and he will work his way to his goal. I wish he'd change it to a 3, though.
You guys are probably 20 yards longer than I am, but I can still get the ball to the fringe and that was before knowing about releasing the Finishing Swivel! A good chip and two careful putts and I 'd lower my score by 8-10 shots per round.
Let's say I have an awful day and have no greens in regulation. Let's say I'm playing Daryl at Cuscowilla and am 50 yards short of every hole.
I'm resolved to putt from the fringe whenever possible! A bad putt would leave me within 10 feet of the hole and if I make 50% of those, that's 9 pars/9 bogies! My hcp is 10.1 so I shoot par! Daryl buys the root-beer or Sangria!
We have three, 9 hole tracts that we alternate each week. On a good day, I can hit 7 greens in regulation or could just blocking the ball around. 14 pars and 6 bogies.
If I am not a 4 hcp. by the end of next year, I'm not playing. When I see Lynn in April, I bet he shows me enough the first 2 hours to shoot par.
Tim, I 'm sure you can putt. I know Jerry can be a beast ( very effective). When Kevin heals and starts playing, I think Jerry will be even more competitive. There are lots of strong players in that neighborhood!
Where do you men struggle and loose strokes?
ICT
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
If I am not a 4 hcp. by the end of next year, I'm not playing. When I see Lynn in April, I bet he shows me enough the first 2 hours to shoot par.
Tim, I 'm sure you can putt. I know Jerry can be a beast ( very effective). When Kevin heals and starts playing, I think Jerry will be even more competitive. There are lots of strong players in that neighborhood!
Where do you men struggle and loose strokes?
ICT
i've had occasional good days but full swing has been my weakness - hopefully TGM puts that right, if i can assemble a decent reliable full swing i can make enough putts & scramble well enough to get the job done i hope - but i'll have to get cracking early - wish i could come to Georgia, that would be really cool - maybe in 2012
Patrick,
When you and I played, I hit the driver well, putted o.k., chipped fairly well, but my iron play was atrocious.
As the year went on I found the more Down I put into everything, everything got better. I hit the driver further and straighter. Irons were crisper, longer and much more consistent. Even putting was better. I got into trouble by hitting it too far, a problem I never had before. I still cannot get over having to chip "back" to the hole. I had never, or rarley, hit the ball through the dogleg into the water or whatever hazard awaited. Those were my foibles in Oct. and early Nov.
i've had occasional good days but full swing has been my weakness - hopefully TGM puts that right, if i can assemble a decent reliable full swing i can make enough putts & scramble well enough to get the job done i hope - but i'll have to get cracking early - wish i could come to Georgia, that would be really cool - maybe in 2012
So that will be my regular window. The most helpful "full -swing " videos for me are:
With your scrambling abilities, and these insights from Lynn, you are likely to have Jerry's problem and be over the green for awhile.
ICT
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Jerry, hitting down is the best. I believe a person who can hit down can shoot par without a driver and half a set of clubs.
ICT
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Last edited by innercityteacher : 12-28-2010 at 02:03 AM.
For the 95 percent of golfers who come 'over-the-top', I couldn't agree more! But remember, that Feel is of the Inside-Out Angle of Approach (of the Clubhead) and On Plane Thrust (of the Right Forearm and Lag Pressure), not of a shifted (to the right) Baseline of the Inclined Plane.
Hogan’s “banded” arms feel has real value.
I strongly disagree. Both the illustration and the 'feel' it creates should come with a warning label.
The 'banding' of the arms with its 'together' elbows destroys the Right Forearm Flying Wedge and its in-line support of the Left Arm Flying Wedge. This is damaging at Address -- it's okay, Tim Clark, you can stick with it! -- but it is disastrous at the Top (fortunately, by this time, Tim has reorganized) and fatal at Impact.
Hogan had the correct Feel -- which involves a tension in the upper arms that caused them to adhere more closely to the chest -- but he didn't tell us how he did it. Worse, he left us an illustration guaranteed to create the wrong feel!
Hogan got his Feel by using the Extensor Action (6-B-1-D) of his Right and Left Triceps to stretch his Left Arm. That action creates a stretching Tension Force -- the same as that present in the structure of suspension bridges -- in the upper arms that also causes them to move marginally closer together and thus adhere more closely to the chest.
Unfortunately, in Five Lessons, that Force (Non-Accelerating Thrust / 6-C-0 #2) was misinterpreted (and illustrated) as a Compression Force -- the exact opposite of a Tension Force -- one created by bringing the elbows 'in' toward each other. This action results in a horizontal, squeezed condition of the arms and not an in-line stretched condition. Both actions create upper arm tension and upper body adherence, but whereas the Tension Force creates Power Package Alignment and Structure, the Compression Force destroys it. So, if you want to feel what Hogan felt, do what he did, not what he said he did.
A shift to the elbow plane is necessary to use #3-#2.
The Release of the Hand Power Accumulators (Uncock and Roll) occurs 'On Line', i.e., on the Straight Plane Line (the Third Imperative / 2-0 #B-3). The Plane Angle itself is the player's option. It is perfectly possible for the Right Forearm and Hands to remain on the Turned Shoulder Plane through Impact.
It is true that Extensor Action can be exaggerated into an immobilizing fault. However, that does not obviate its purpose; namely, to provide a "structural rigidity" that is a strong deterrent to collapse under the stresses created by a powerful golf stroke, especially at the Top and through Impact.
To achieve maximum Zone 2 Power, the Arms (and with them the Club) must swing freely from the Shoulders (and not be bound to and drug around by them). Also, the Wrists must remain flexible to perform their Release functions (Uncock and Roll). However, that does not mean that the Power Package Structure (which these Components and their Loading collectively comprise) should be "loose" or, worse yet, "flimsy". Or that the Hands should be robbed of the firm Grip necessary to control Clubface alignments.
I would guess longer clubs need more EA, which could mean I am completely wrong.
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The Power Package (with its Extensor Action) is indifferent to the Club inserted into its Clamps.
Very interesting!
ICT
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Last edited by innercityteacher : 12-28-2010 at 02:13 AM.