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Old 05-01-2011, 12:47 PM
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I'm against "Book Burning" but for the "Golf Factory" book, I'll make an exception.
Nice group of golfers ya got here Lynn!!! Resorting to violence in 20 posts or less. Sweet.
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Old 05-01-2011, 01:57 PM
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Just read this post and it is disappointing to say the least. What is nice about this site is Lynn is courteous enough not only to allow "competitors" to be mentioned on the site, but also different ideas regarding the Golfing Machine. His gallery includes both Doyle and Tomasello for instance. Homer Kelley is dead. He cannot validate or endorse anything anymore. Doyle, Tomasello, Sloan and Blake all spent time with him, as did other instructors. All have different methods, to say one is right or wrong, which Mr. Blake never does, is simply arrogant and outside the spirit of a book that is designed to open people's minds about the golf swing, not close them. Other sites out there have rabid supporters who attack anyone who disagrees,one hopes this site does not become one. Delaware Golf is a gentleman and devotee of Tomasello's teaching. He has never criticized Lynn Blake's teaching in any post, I reviewed all of them. No one other than Tomasello and Kelley know what they discussed, Homer's taped lessons reflect some thoughts not put in the Golfing Machine explicitly and I assume he was always adapting, as any good scientist. I find some of Tomasello's lessons fascinating, as I do with Blake, Sloan, Evans, Fort and many others. Suggesting Delaware Golf go elsewhere for providing a perspective that we can disagree with or suggesting that some pro who took the time to write an online book about his interpretation of the Golfing Machine have it burned reflects a closemindedness that in no way fits in with the forty year search for truth about golf that Homer Kelley devoted so much of his life to. Those on this post who were harshest have wonderful posts and I learn a lot from them. Civility is a lost quality on the internet, it would be nice if it existed here at least.
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Old 05-01-2011, 02:08 PM
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Just read this post and it is disappointing to say the least. What is nice about this site is Lynn is courteous enough not only to allow "competitors" to be mentioned on the site, but also different ideas regarding the Golfing Machine. His gallery includes both Doyle and Tomasello for instance. Homer Kelley is dead. He cannot validate or endorse anything anymore. Doyle, Tomasello, Sloan and Blake all spent time with him, as did other instructors. All have different methods, to say one is right or wrong, which Mr. Blake never does, is simply arrogant and outside the spirit of a book that is designed to open people's minds about the golf swing, not close them. Other sites out there have rabid supporters who attack anyone who disagrees,one hopes this site does not become one. Delaware Golf is a gentleman and devotee of Tomasello's teaching. He has never criticized Lynn Blake's teaching in any post, I reviewed all of them. No one other than Tomasello and Kelley know what they discussed, Homer's taped lessons reflect some thoughts not put in the Golfing Machine explicitly and I assume he was always adapting, as any good scientist. I find some of Tomasello's lessons fascinating, as I do with Blake, Sloan, Evans, Fort and many others. Suggesting Delaware Golf go elsewhere for providing a perspective that we can disagree with or suggesting that some pro who took the time to write an online book about his interpretation of the Golfing Machine have it burned reflects a closemindedness that in no way fits in with the forty year search for truth about golf that Homer Kelley devoted so much of his life to. Those on this post who were harshest have wonderful posts and I learn a lot from them. Civility is a lost quality on the internet, it would be nice if it existed here at least.
DG did not lead this thread with a mechanical concept because he did not want a mechanical discussion. He simply wanted a fight which I gave him so he'd feel some validation of his own animosity. I'll do better next time DG and just let you vent with your lack of grace.

You seem to enjoy the victim role so well. "Those mean LBG people are picking on me," sort of thing.

For your own edification DG, when you lead with an insult you are looking for more of the same.

Lead with a technical concept or technical observation to invite thoughtful discussion.

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Old 05-01-2011, 02:14 PM
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I'm against "Book Burning" but for the "Golf Factory" book, I'll make an exception.
May we add "Mein Kampf," by ah as long as the bonfire is going?

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Old 05-01-2011, 02:16 PM
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I guess my pre-emptive non strike wasn't very effective.

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Old 05-01-2011, 02:20 PM
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Nice group of golfers ya got here Lynn!!! Resorting to violence in 20 posts or less. Sweet.
Lynn is probably very busy teaching simple alignments and making the game of golf fun for unskilled golfers like me and accomplished touring pros like, name a dozen or so.

DG, go teach someone something and you'll get lots of challenges and have fun, interesting adventures of the mind and spirit and a few disagreements too!

Of course, you'd do that if you wanted more than just an argument.

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Old 05-01-2011, 03:17 PM
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I am at a complete loss as to how DG's post was either an insult to Lynn Blake or an invitation to fight? He indicated some criticism may be forthcoming, nothing else. What am I missing?
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Old 05-01-2011, 03:26 PM
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I am at a complete loss as to how DG's post was either an insult to Lynn Blake or an invitation to fight? He indicated some criticism may be forthcoming, nothing else. What am I missing?
I think it's just history. DG tends to be as protective of Mr.Tomasselo as we are of Mr. Blake. Both wonderful ambassadors of TGM, I love it that YODA preserved the Tomassello videos on his site. We all need to quit taking this stuff so personally. I am very guilty myself...

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Old 05-01-2011, 04:45 PM
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I am at a complete loss as to how DG's post was either an insult to Lynn Blake or an invitation to fight? He indicated some criticism may be forthcoming, nothing else. What am I missing?
Dodger, if someone expressed sarcasm about your golfing skills after I saw your skills in person, I'd disagree with them to their face. I spent four days seeing Mr. Blake's tremendous skill and passion teaching and doing brilliant golf insight. And the line admiring Mr. Blake and seeking his insight stretches outside the beautiful Cuscowilla resort to uhmm, around the world.

So, here comes DG expressing "surprise" that Lynn's sight is somehow lacking in friendliness to golfers or insight into the machine. Really?

And btw, Mr. Tomasello's tapes seem instructive to me and he seems like a very approachable and knowledgeable instructor based on his tapes. If I had known him personally, and if I heard a person insult his friendliness or skill or intellectual curiosity about golf, I would say something in his defense. Why should naysayers get a free pass?

My point remains the same. Technique questions or machine questions are fine imo. "Why does Nick Faldo advocate keeping a flat right foot in hitting a certain type of 9 iron shot," for example, is a legitimate question. "Why does Nick Faldo not understand the really useful golfing technique advocated by the genius Mr. Smith," is just trying to spit on a person while supposedly speaking to them.

Dodger, btw, good luck on your club championship and other endeavors. You seem to have great skills!

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Old 05-01-2011, 06:17 PM
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Just read this post and it is disappointing to say the least. What is nice about this site is Lynn is courteous enough not only to allow "competitors" to be mentioned on the site, but also different ideas regarding the Golfing Machine. His gallery includes both Doyle and Tomasello for instance. Homer Kelley is dead. He cannot validate or endorse anything anymore. Doyle, Tomasello, Sloan and Blake all spent time with him, as did other instructors. All have different methods, to say one is right or wrong, which Mr. Blake never does, is simply arrogant and outside the spirit of a book that is designed to open people's minds about the golf swing, not close them. Other sites out there have rabid supporters who attack anyone who disagrees,one hopes this site does not become one. Delaware Golf is a gentleman and devotee of Tomasello's teaching. He has never criticized Lynn Blake's teaching in any post, I reviewed all of them. No one other than Tomasello and Kelley know what they discussed, Homer's taped lessons reflect some thoughts not put in the Golfing Machine explicitly and I assume he was always adapting, as any good scientist. I find some of Tomasello's lessons fascinating, as I do with Blake, Sloan, Evans, Fort and many others. Suggesting Delaware Golf go elsewhere for providing a perspective that we can disagree with or suggesting that some pro who took the time to write an online book about his interpretation of the Golfing Machine have it burned reflects a closemindedness that in no way fits in with the forty year search for truth about golf that Homer Kelley devoted so much of his life to. Those on this post who were harshest have wonderful posts and I learn a lot from them. Civility is a lost quality on the internet, it would be nice if it existed here at least.
Civility? Geez, I'm holding back big time. The "Book" has nothing to do with TGM.

Have you bothered to read the On-Line book? It's a "hook". The guy sells Myrtle Beach Golf Vacations and uses the book to draw in customers.

Here's an excerpt:

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ANGLED HINGING OF THE LEFT WRIST
The wrist remains Vertical to the ground and square to the target line (the left hand arches away from the left forearm), making an attempt to keep the clubhead moving toward the target. This motion disrupts the natural rotation of the clubhead, opening the clubface, causing a fade.

Are you kidding me?
It's this kind of trash that gives all TGM'ers a bad rap.
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