Hinge Action meets "The D-Plane"
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11-23-2010, 01:51 PM
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The D-Plane is very confusing to me as I am not mathmatical at all in nature. On Kev's facebook page the following link was put up that I really felt helped and made a lot of sense to me.
Is it right to be feeling this is helpful?
http://trackman.dk/Media/Videos/Josh-Zander.aspx
*apologies if this has already been posted as I am joining the conversation late in the day
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11-23-2010, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GPStyles
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The D-Plane is very confusing to me as I am not mathmatical at all in nature. On Kev's facebook page the following link was put up that I really felt helped and made a lot of sense to me.
Is it right to be feeling this is helpful?
http://trackman.dk/Media/Videos/Josh-Zander.aspx
*apologies if this has already been posted as I am joining the conversation late in the day
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I think D-Plane's and Track Man's ideal is learning about the dead straight shot, and deciphering how to achieve it. I've never been able to play that way, I'm not that good. My best golf has been trying to hit a little push draw. I like to align my machine square, and catch it a little more on the back of the circle than some, and my compensation is setting up with, and trying to maintain a bit of an open face. My path at impact is a little more right of the face, at least that's the goal for me.
There are options in how to flight it, and options as far as how you visualize what you want to accomplish. Good players have always had to make compensations for what they feel and see. I loved hearing my friend John say that D-Plane and Homer Kelley aren't very far apart. In my opinion, the small amount that they may be apart is semantics, and doesn't affect what I feel or teach. A little deeper into the "science" than I need to get, and certainly deeper than should affect how we feel about each other as professionals. Everybody posting at LBG right now is on the same team IMHO, those that aren't have gone elsewhere.
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11-23-2010, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by GPStyles
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The D-Plane is very confusing to me as I am not mathmatical at all in nature. On Kev's facebook page the following link was put up that I really felt helped and made a lot of sense to me.
Is it right to be feeling this is helpful?
http://trackman.dk/Media/Videos/Josh-Zander.aspx
*apologies if this has already been posted as I am joining the conversation late in the day
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not for me at least - it sounds like he is arguing for an OTT iron swing, with a closing club face this could be 'pull-city' couldn't it ?
but this thread has been beyond my ken, so i am probably talking horlicks
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11-23-2010, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by John Graham
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Trackman verifies D Plane. Just remember, D plane and Homer are very close. Only one small part separates them as I have learned from being here.
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Ya, one small thing. The "Laws of Physics".
Trackman doesn't verify D-Plane. It only makes the same false assumptions.
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11-23-2010, 02:43 PM
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11-23-2010, 02:45 PM
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Tim, I kind of agree but should we argue with the science?
When he says that Hogan had a closed stance with a driver and a progressively more open stance with shorter irons that would seem to agree with what the wee ice mon himself wrote in modern fundamentals
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11-23-2010, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by GPStyles
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Tim, I kind of agree but should we argue with the science?
When he says that Hogan had a closed stance with a driver and a progressively more open stance with shorter irons that would seem to agree with what the wee ice mon himself wrote in modern fundamentals
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i understand shifting the plane to the right of target in order to hit the driver on the up & straight
if we shift the plane left & hit down my take is that we are going left unless we have an open clubface and hold on in which case we are hitting a cut
but my understanding is some way short of patchy
is hitting from the inside one of the TGM imperatives ?
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11-23-2010, 03:33 PM
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Uhmmmm, I just wanted to say that ...
Originally Posted by KevCarter
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I think D-Plane's and Track Man's ideal is learning about the dead straight shot, and deciphering how to achieve it. I've never been able to play that way, I'm not that good. My best golf has been trying to hit a little push draw. I like to align my machine square, and catch it a little more on the back of the circle than some, and my compensation is setting up with, and trying to maintain a bit of an open face. My path at impact is a little more right of the face, at least that's the goal for me.
There are options in how to flight it, and options as far as how you visualize what you want to accomplish. Good players have always had to make compensations for what they feel and see. I loved hearing my friend John say that D-Plane and Homer Kelley aren't very far apart. In my opinion, the small amount that they may be apart is semantics, and doesn't affect what I feel or teach. A little deeper into the "science" than I need to get, and certainly deeper than should affect how we feel about each other as professionals. Everybody posting at LBG right now is on the same team IMHO, those that aren't have gone elsewhere.
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What makes TGM interesting and impressive to me is that Mr. Kelly was able to perceive the actions and dynamics that others had, but did so in a comprehensive, unified theory based on sound biomechanics when not too much information was floating around.
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11-23-2010, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by innercityteacher
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What makes TGM interesting and impressive to me is that Mr. Kelly was able to perceive the actions and dynamics that others had, but did so in a comprehensive, unified theory based on sound biomechanics when not too much information was floating around.
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Absolutely Teach!
No fun stuff with computers or GPS. No video with fancy slow motion... all he had was a used camera. AMAZING how he figured everything out and we still love it today!!!
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11-23-2010, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by KevCarter
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Absolutely Teach!
No fun stuff with computers or GPS. No video with fancy slow motion... all he had was a used camera. AMAZING how he figured everything out and we still love it today!!!
Kevin
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He had Newtons Laws of Force and Motion. He could have figured everything else out in his garage if he wanted. Hmm? He did. 
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