Tiger - Way Outta Bounds

[John Hue]

guys why exactly did tiger leave butch harmon and join up with hank?

was it different opinions or $$ or something else.i know someone here knows the truth.

the reason why i'm asking is because while he was with butch everything was falling into place nicely and why try to fix something when its not broken as ben johnson the canadian track stars coach would say!

There were reports in the news papers that Tiger was unhappy with Butch teaching other tournament players (Darren Clark was one of them) and offered him a contract which meant he would have to give up teaching other players. Butch declined and there was a parting of the ways.

[O.B.Left]

There was one account, cant remember from where or when, that said Tiger and Butch had reached a dead end after failing to solve his problem with "getting stuck". The final attempt being an effort to speed up his arms to catch up.

But in light of the current affair and given the speculative nature of reporting, the truth may be that only those two guys know for sure. Or maybe only Tiger. Butch is obviously a fine teacher.

[O.B.Left]

X-man, if you are into track and Hitting there is a fella here you need to meet, if you havent already. Our own YodasLuke aka Ted Fort former track star and Hitting Machine fine tuner par excellence, sans parallel. He would understand your track related incremental training regime, he has referred to it before and related it to his own personal golf training. Spent one month in Basic for instance (as a pro).

[x-man]

X-man, if you are into track and Hitting there is a fella here you need to meet, if you havent already. Our own YodasLuke aka Ted Fort former track star and Hitting Machine fine tuner par excellence, sans parallel. He would understand your track related incremental training regime, he has referred to it before and related it to his own personal golf training. Spent one month in Basic for instance (as a pro).

OB thanks a million.i attended UH under supervision of carl lewis' coach named tom tellez

ill PM yodasluke asap

[O.B.Left]

X I dont know if your learning the game or relearning it but you are saving yourself a significant amount of time, with your approach. Wish I could get my own wasted golf years, decades back.

[O.B.Left]

Let the record show that we were over 170 posts into this thread before the first thread jack transgression. Is the Tiger story losing steam?

[x-man]

X I dont know if your learning the game or relearning it but you are saving yourself a significant amount of time, with your approach. Wish I could get my own wasted years, decades back.

OB i'm playing golf consistantly since this feb and its great.for my birthday my wife made me join a club so i had no excuses.so currently off 9 and learning how to be a great and consistant golfer.i'm 33 and want to turn some heads next year.

in reference to age.....its only a figure but when i met my last pro for a lesson i said to him why did i not take up this game earlier!!! he laughed at me and said i'm still a kid.since then i got in touch with a TGM instructor and 2nd lesson with him next tuesday.

[Daryl]

Let the record show that we were over 170 posts into this thread before the first thread jack transgression. Is the Tiger story losing steam?

No, but some of the curiosity has been satisfied. But now I'm curious to see how this scheme unravels. No doubt, it'll be carefully planned and orchestrated. I'm sure that he'll manipulate the press and anyone else to his advantage. It will also be interesting if he separates himself from his current enablers and what staff changes he'll make (or allow).

"Oh what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practice to deceive!"

[BerntR]

Tiger's statement is as contrite as it is succinct. A world-class 'mea culpa' with only the "I" word -- Infidelity -- serving as chum for an insatiable media and its public. We who care can only hope it is sincere and not just "the best money can buy".

Yep,

It does come out a little to well manicured for a heartfelt confession.

I hope for his own sake that he is mentally prepared and capable of making the amendments. As for turning the corner I think it would be wise to stay away longer rather than shorter. If he comes back to the Masters in good form it will only signal that he has altered the preparations and not his priorities.

He may also be able twist the media and the public around his little finger if plays his cards right.

Instead of returning in due time for the Masters he could say something like: "We need more time.I'll be back, but I don't know when."

Then - as the Open was getting near and every golf soul was holding their breath he could repeat the message. Just without the "I'll be back" part.

As the US Open was getting nearer he could reflect on his past curent and future life like this:

"Competitive golf has been a very important part of my life since I was a kid. And my golfing carreer have been rewarding beyond my dreams in most aspects. There's only one goal left for me and I think you all know what I am talking about.

Jack was an incredible performer for an incredible long duration. And I know better than most golfers what it takes to stay on top of the game year in year out. It is really, really hard. And this knowledge just makes Jack's achevements even more admirable.

One thing is the focus and dedication, and drive and energy that is required on the course. But it is also very difficult to be a top athlete and still give friends and family the attention and the care that they deserve. Jack seemed to be excellent at that part to, but it's no secret that I haven't performed equally well in that regard. My family have taken their toll while I've been 100% focused on being a top athlete for several years now.

Right now family life is good and I enjoy being a husband and a father above all else. While the competitive fire is still burning it is not as strong as it used to be. The priorities have changed somehow. And besides I can't say that I miss all the hard work an dedication that is required to perform at the top.

There is only one more big goal left for me on the course, and that is to win more majors than Jack did. My wife has given me the green light, but I don't know if I am willing to make the commitments and family sacrifices that are implied. Besides, you can't go out there and play for a good resume. You have to go out there and have a strong desire to win each single time. I am playing recreational golf regularly and I haven't quit on my workout regime either. There is a chance that I will play a couple of competitions during fall & winter season just to clarify my priorities. If the desire to compete on the top level returns to full strength I'll be back on the tour with 100% commitment. This time with the added challenge of finding a better balance between family life and life as competitive golfer.

But if I it doesn't happen I'll always be greatful for what I've acheved in my golfing career. It won't be the end of the world you know. There are other things in life that is more important than golf.

I wish you all the best bla-bla-bla.....

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Then of course he should feed the rumours with contradictory maybes and maybe not's while he prepared for 2011 Masters

By the time he announces his return to the 2011 Masters he will have the world by his feet: "Hello World! I'm back"

A little bit too much maybe

[Yoda]

By the time he announces his return to the 2011 Masters he will have the world by his feet: "Hello World! I'm back"

Interesting, BerntR. We're a year apart on this one.

You may be right -- and we both may be wrong -- but . . .

I think the sooner Tiger climbs back on the 'horse what brung him', the better.

Three months in the 'dog house' is long enough: There are way too many people depending on a resolution to this 'problem'. Nobody, including his family, is well-served dragging this thing out.

Not to mention the fragility of an athlete's 'dog years'; the now-in-reach challenge of Jack's eighteen major championships; and the fact that Tiger Woods does not know the meaning of 'quit'.

Just do it . . .

Right?