plane and baseline

[O.B.Left]

This is an interesting deal . . . . Thrust of what?

Ill defer to Drewit on the "Thrust of what?". But if the Hands are moving On Plane, Post Low Point, Forward ,Up and In (left if you will) the Thrust IS felt in the Pressure Points and directed straight line Forward, Down and Out towards the Plane Line.

The Swinging Left guys who "cut it" left with their Hands are courting an Off Plane Thrust!

The Left thing is maybe in our terms described as the Rythm of Angled Hinge Action. The delayed overtaking of the Hands by the Clubhead associated with the shorter clubhead travel of Angled Hinge Action. Perhaps this is what those Swinging Left players are really feeling though they describe it as a leftward move of the hands.

You can find pictures of Trevino , often , or Hogan occasionally doing this Angled Hinge Action or swinging left but its not "The Way". Its merely "A Way" and a way that if not Aligned to the Plane is another form of position golf. You cant just say "cut" your hands hard to the left and expect them to be Aligned. The Plane still rules. Geometrically Oriented Linear Force. "Left", could mean anything. Homer would ask "left yes, but how much and why?" Its Plane Angle dependent geometrically and Hinge Action dependent in feeling.

[Daryl]

Swinging Left: Fact or Fiction?

Infamous Hogan Swing-Left Picture:


Is He Swinging Left or is He Swinging On-Plane (Elbow Plane) after Impact?

Staying On-Plane after Impact requires the Pivot to keep Turning Left for Any Swing Plane employed. Otherwise, if the Hips Slow, or Stop, the Hands will Rise off-Plane.

His often "High Hands" Finish is a sign of his Pivot Motion continuing to lead then abruptly slowed, and just as often, "Low Hands" Finish is a sign of the Hands overtaking the Pivot.

Ignore the Lines:


Just another thought: I wonder if golfers stop their Pivots in an unconscious effort to allow the Hands to travel towards the Target with the mistaken notion of a baseball or basketball throw? Steering.

[KevCarter]

Swinging Left: Fact or Fiction?


Is He Swinging Left or is He Swinging On-Plane (Elbow Plane) after Impact?

Staying On-Plane after Impact requires the Pivot to keep Turning Left for Any Swing Plane employed. Otherwise, if the Hips Slow, or Stop, the Hands will Rise off-Plane.

His often "High Hands" Finish is a sign of his Pivot Motion continuing to lead then abruptly slowed, and just as often, "Low Hands" Finish is a sign of the Hands overtaking the Pivot.

Just another thought: I wonder if golfers stop their Pivots in an unconscious effort to allow the Hands to travel towards the Target with the mistaken notion of a baseball or basketball throw? Steering.

IMHO, post of the day/month/year. This dismisses a lot of "POP" teaching thoeries.

Great work!

Kevin

[drewitgolf]

Ill defer to Drewit on the "Thrust of what?".

Check out 2-M-1. Also, keep in mind that Thrust of the Clubhead is crossline, but motion is online.

[O.B.Left]

IMHO, post of the day/month/year. This dismisses a lot of "POP" teaching thoeries.

Great work!

Kevin

Id say post of a life time. It cant be topped. In fact you can stop posting now D.

Please.

OK best post from Today at 7:32. Hows that?

[O.B.Left]

Check out 2-M-1. Also, keep in mind that Thrust of the Clubhead is crossline, but motion is online.

Crossline for Arc of Approach people too?

What about 1-L-10 .......Power Package driven by an on plane force (towards the plane line).

Thanks

[Daryl]

Crossline for Arc of Approach people too?

What about 1-L-10 .......Power Package driven by an on plane force (towards the plane line).

Thanks

Hmm? I wonder what that On Plane Force might be? What possible force is there immediately behind the Power Package that might Drive it Down Plane?

[drewitgolf]

Crossline for Arc of Approach people too?

What about 1-L-10 .......Power Package driven by an on plane force (towards the plane line).

Thanks

Arc of Approach is the motion, the delivery line of the clubhead and its geometric basis is the Plane Line.
Actually, 1-L-10 reads as follows: The Lever Assembly must be driven "Through" Impact by an On Plane force (moving toward the Plane Line).

[O.B.Left]

Arc of Approach is the motion, the delivery line of the clubhead and its geometric basis is the Plane Line.

Actually, 1-L-10 reads as follows: The Lever Assembly must be driven "Through" Impact by an On Plane force (moving toward the Plane Line).

So the Delivery Line is On Plane for the Swinger , Arc of Approach, the motion but the Thrust is crossline? Or are you saying the Hitters Thrust is crossline, Angle of Approach? That I get. Or are you talking divergent vectors or something?

I am such a stupid.

[drewitgolf]

So the Delivery Line is On Plane for the Swinger , Arc of Approach, the motion but the Thrust is crossline? Or are you saying the Hitters Thrust is crossline, Angle of Approach? That I get. Or are you talking divergent vectors or something?

Thrust is Physics. Example, think of a Straight Line Delivery Path of the Hands which extends beyond the Plane line, but the motion, Geometry, as it goes around the pulley of the Endless Belt creates an Arc of Approach that is on line.

Monitor your Plane Line or your Arc of Approach and you are monitor Geometry, but monitor Your Delivery Path and you monitor both, because the Thrust is also on Plane.