Since your one of a few who had contact with Homer Kelley. Can you give us a time line of contacts you had with Homer Kelley by phone/in person meetings/masterclass and the content of those meetings. If Tom Tomasello was alive today, I would ask him to do the same thing!!!
With all due respect DG I would suggest that the burden of proof is on you, not Yoda. Although I would be thrilled to read a detailed reply to your questions! This pot does not need additional stirring but I was born with a silver one!
Yoda's time-line is well documented on this forum if you care to do the research. I am sure you could provide a time-line of your own regarding your encounter with A.J. Tomasello. But, I guarantee that your time-line would begin after Valentine's Day 1983, the day Tomasello and Mr. Kelley were on stage making a presentation to the Georgia PGA. That was the day Mr. Kelley passed away during the presentation. Up until that time, Tomasello taught right out of the book. Although, he thought if you used a Hitters motion, you would end up with a bad back and suggested it should be avoided. That said, he did not teach the way he taught you until well after Mr. Kelley's death. Draw your own conclusion.
Since your one of a few who had contact with Homer Kelley. Can you give us a time line of contacts you had with Homer Kelley by phone/in person meetings/masterclass and the content of those meetings. If Tom Tomasello was alive today, I would ask him to do the same thing!!!
XX/XX/1980 -- HK/TT/LB phone conversation -- blah blah (recorded and now widely distributed over the Internet (by others without permission, not by me) . . .
XX/XX/1980 X 4 -- HK/LB phone conversations -- more blah blah.
XX/XX/1981 X 7 -- HK/LB phone conversations -- More blah blah.
01/11-15/1982 - Masterclass.
XX/XX/1982 -- HK/LB phone conversations X 4 (or maybe 14, can't remember!) -- More blah blah.
January 1983 -- HK/LB phone conversation (discussed his upcoming speaking trip to Georgia and invitation to the upcoming school in SC). Then, some blah, blah . . .
February 14, 1983 -- Homer's death in Macon, Georgia at the Georgia PGA Section's Annual Meeting. The next day, my club professional, John Gerring, personally hands me a tape of the last hours.
XX/XX/1980 X 4 -- HK/LB phone conversations -- more blah blah.
XX/XX/1981 X 7 -- HK/LB phone conversations -- More blah blah.
XX/XX/1982 - Masterclass.
XX/XX/1982 -- HK/LB phone conversations X 4 (or maybe 14, can't remember!) -- More blah blah.
January 1983 -- HK/LB phone conversation (discussed his upcoming speaking trip to Georgia and invitation to the upcoming school in SC). Then, some blah, blah . . .
February 1983 -- Homer's death in Macon, Georgia. My club professional, John Gerring, personally hands me a tape of the last hours.
No more 'blah blah'.
Not all wrong, I got the masterclass time frame right....with my initial message I was attempting to give you a format to follow not exact dates.
Yoda's time-line is well document on this forum if you care to do the research. I am sure you could provide a time-line of your own regarding your encounter with A.J. Tomasello. But, I guarantee that your time-line would begin after Valentine's Day 1983, the day Tomasello and Mr. Kelley were on stage making a presentation to the Georgia PGA. That was the day Mr. Kelley passed away during the presentation. Up until that time, Tomasello taught right out of the book. Although, he thought if you used a Hitters motion, you would end up with a bad back and suggested it should be avoided. That said, he did not teach the way he taught you until well after Mr. Kelley's death. Draw your own conclusion.
And who are you? And how did Tommy teach before Homer's death? What makes you such an authority? Hitting should be avoided??? That's insane....Tommy had a three day school devoted to hitting (3 day swinging school, 3 day hitting school and a 3 day advanced school for shot making with the swinging and hitting procedures). He told me on the driving range at Deer Track (1993)...."if you want to get this game in your hip pocket, you have to learn both swinging and hitting". Thank god, I made recordings of my instruction.
Funny thing....Tommy taught out of the book when I studied with him in 1993.....in the 12 DVD set he's teaching out of the book, in fact, I bought another copy of the 7th edition to follow his instruction and make notes. I'm having a hard time following your comments above...
I'm surprised through all of the exchanges about Tomasello's instruction you didn't make the above comments much earlier?
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 11-24-2008 at 09:31 PM.
What is eating you DG? This topic has been alive for quite sometime, and you have never resorted to suggesting that our host is unqualified! And no...I never studied with ANYONE, but I have cleaned out a wallet or two in my time!
It seems as though you are one post away from postal! What is the point? You have been a great contributor to this site, but now it seems you want to take your magic right forearm and go home! If you are still perusing Yoda's resume...then well...you are confused!
What is eating you DG? This topic has been alive for quite sometime, and you have never resorted to suggesting that our host is unqualified! And no...I never studied with ANYONE, but I have cleaned out a wallet or two in my time!
It seems as though you are one post away from postal! What is the point? You have been a great contributor to this site, but now it seems you want to take your magic right forearm and go home! If you are still perusing Yoda's resume...then well...you are confused!
Going postal (that's silly)...sorry, I'm only here to seek the truth. I'm not here to waste my time. My guess is you didn't get the 12 DVD set.
It's the 12 DVD set and DVD #10 (that DVD has opened a huge can of worms)....completely different instruction then what's being taught on this site especially how Tommy taught section 10-20. I believe Jodie Mudd could answer a lot of my questions....I believe Jodie's on DVD 5 and 6 going through the way he swings the club. The way he is describing his downswing it appears he is using 10-20-C as Tommy describes on DVD #10 (right shoulder starting the downstroke). Not for one minute/one second do I feel/believe that Tommy deviated from the book. In fact, I would like to believe both Lynn and Tommy are correct, that you do in fact have options.
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 11-25-2008 at 07:40 AM.
From my reading it would seem that the respective points of view appear to be mutually exclusive...so somebody is wrong! Wrong at least in their desciption of what is going on...not on the effectiveness of the actual pattern. I agree with Yoda (in as much as I can understand his sense of things, yet Tom Tomasello is not one bit diminished in my eyes. It would seem that this particular horse has been flogged to glue!
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