Input on Book "The Final Missing Piece"
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12-19-2007, 09:30 AM
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I really don't see a connection!
But then -maybe "i have sight but can't see" 
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12-19-2007, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by kmmcnabb
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I think the book is very well done and a great addition to your Hogan reading materials (I have them all).
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All of them? Care to make a list?
I will start. "Ben Hogan and Buster" by Art Barr Jr. If you have that one I will be very impressed.
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12-19-2007, 11:26 AM
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Another Classic
How about Hogan meets the Bucket over Home Fries?
Who could forget that best seller?
UPP in almost playable except for the snow Ohio
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12-19-2007, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by neil
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Bucket, did you forget HOOTERS or have you not found it yet?
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Hooter's exploits womens . . . I go to classy joints like the World Famous Tiki or the Boom Boom Room
once again . . . you are vile pig . . .
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12-19-2007, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke
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In Bucket's world,
Waffle House = Hooters
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Now THAT was funny!
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12-19-2007, 05:00 PM
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Got the book Monday, read it in one looong swop. Tried it out the next day, and realized I was back to my junior swing.
There is one item I wish Mr. Trolio had addressed in the book. According to Jody Vasquez account, Mr. Hogan played with severly open clubheads, I believe they were 5 deg open. How does that affect "the move"? Playing with regular clubs, do I need to take that fact into account? Should I address, or "imapct fix" with a distinctly open clubface?
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12-19-2007, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Kumabjorn
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Should I address, or "imapct fix" with a distinctly open clubface?
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If you rotate the face of the club as fast as Hogan did around impact, then yes, otherwise, no need. Hogan built several face/slice type moves into his swing and game, the open clubs is just another weapon he had in his arsenal for kicking that hook. If you hit a hook no matter what, copy all his slice producing moves, if not, keep adding at your own risk. Of course all of these "slice-producing moves" worked so darn well because Hogan had some hooking tendencies, flat swing, quick clubface rotation, quick tempo, etc.
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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12-19-2007, 09:57 PM
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Wouldn't you just open the clubface if you needed to? 
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12-19-2007, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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Hooter's exploits womens . . . I go to classy joints like the World Famous Tiki or the Boom Boom Room
once again . . . you are vile pig . . .
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NOT -veerry niyce-High Five!
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12-20-2007, 09:50 AM
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Self criticism-and a question.
Originally Posted by neil
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I got it Today,
Great -thanks VJ
Mr Kelly says use the hip bump.
Mr Trolio confirms it.
Mr Blake does it.
Recently [last 5 years],as well as taking lessons from my club Pro[an AI] and various teachers from Georgia and Mississippi -[all AI's] I have also been "digging it out in the dirt".I have not had a lesson for about a year -but I have found myself getting closer to feeling i was "on my left leg"
The book confirms what has proved to improve my swing-together with the application of TGM.
Cheers Trolio and LBG
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This post was actually -very incorrect .Since no one criticised it ,I will.
Lynn does not perform this move IMO ,but after his hip bump he ends up in the same position.
VJ is not advocating a hip bump in the book .
It seems to me you can do either.
Does anyone feel that VJ's book is only for those who want to play a fade? or can it be incorporated into any swing? 
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