The Backstroke Question

[KOC]

The right forearm pick up (active right elbow, forearm up to the turned shoulder plan) is an easy way to have on plane backstroke. Drive the right forearm down and out….I did that quite well but I personally felt that RFT is more like related to hitting procedure, just my feeling.

However, when I wanted to have a swinging procedure, I remember Yoda said in Jeff video: …that is a swing away, not take away…I feel like my zone one needs more work to do to swing the club back and also resulted with lower swing plane to the top and in, because of the passive arm. I start down with a hip slide and drag the handle, the sound was different and seems like effortless and powerful.

Would appreciate if LBG help me to clear the fog of RFT and Swing away in relation to 12-1 and 12-2. How to apply RFT to swinging procedure?

[EdZ]

The right forearm pick up (active right elbow, forearm up to the turned shoulder plan) is an easy way to have on plane backstroke. Drive the right forearm down and out….I did that quite well but I personally felt that RFT is more like related to hitting procedure, just my feeling.

However, when I wanted to have a swinging procedure, I remember Yoda said in Jeff video: …that is a swing away, not take away…I feel like my zone one needs more work to do to swing the club back and also resulted with lower swing plane to the top and in, because of the passive arm. I start down with a hip slide and drag the handle, the sound was different and seems like effortless and powerful.

Would appreciate if LBG help me to clear the fog of RFT and Swing away in relation to 12-1 and 12-2. How to apply RFT to swinging procedure?

Use standard address, bent left/flat right and feel as if you drag the back of the right hand along the ground as you trace the plane line.

In my 'feels', an impact address for hitters is more of an 'up' and a standard address for swingers is more of a 'back'. One of the key benefits of the classic address is that the hand positions basically force you to trace 'back' rather than 'inside', and keep you from getting on too flat a plane angle.

Imagine the shaft is a piece of chalk and draw a line as you drag back from a classic address.


While there is no specific mention in the book regarding this, feel the middle two fingers of the right hand and their pressure points on the target side of the shaft as you drag back.

That said, you most certainly can/should feel the 'up plane' of the right forearm in either case - back, up and in.

Using a forward press/kick in of the right knee as a swing trigger will also help you establish a 'swing back'.

[12 piece bucket]

Use standard address, bent left/flat right and feel as if you drag the back of the right hand along the ground as you trace the plane line.

In my 'feels', an impact address for hitters is more of an 'up' and a standard address for swingers is more of a 'back'. One of the key benefits of the classic address is that the hand positions basically force you to trace 'back' rather than 'inside', and keep you from getting on too flat a plane angle.

Imagine the shaft is a piece of chalk and draw a line as you drag back from a classic address.


While there is no specific mention in the book regarding this, feel the middle two fingers of the right hand and their pressure points on the target side of the shaft as you drag back.

That said, you most certainly can/should feel the 'up plane' of the right forearm in either case - back, up and in.

Using a forward press/kick in of the right knee as a swing trigger will also help you establish a 'swing back'.

YES SIREEE!!! Mr. Kelley said that the pressure points were the FINGER TIPS on the backstroke. He said that you need ENOUGH grip pressure to locate the Pressure Points. The backstroke lag is agains the finger tips.

Nice one EdZ!

[KOC]

Thank you Sirs. How does our finger tips related to The mandatory Right Forearm Takeaway 7-3 in the 7th edition?

[Toolish]

Have not read 7th edition...but outside imperatives nothing in mandatory KOC

[exgolfpro]

Have not read 7th edition...but outside imperatives nothing in mandatory KOC

Boy, I need to get a tatoo of that, so I can see it every day.

[12 piece bucket]

Have not read 7th edition...but outside imperatives nothing in mandatory KOC

According to 7-3 in the 7th Edition the Right Forearm Takeway IS mandatory.

[Toolish]

According to 7-3 in the 7th Edition the Right Forearm Takeway IS mandatory.

That is a suprise.

Can you provide a section of the text that relates to this takeaway being mandatory. I would love some more discussion on why this is the case in the 7th.

[12 piece bucket]

That is a suprise.

Can you provide a section of the text that relates to this takeaway being mandatory. I would love some more discussion on why this is the case in the 7th.

If you got the 7th check the 2nd paragraph in 7-3. I don't have the 7th with me at work . . . but it's there. It is one of the only changes that was made to 7-3. I can't remember the exact quote.