LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - On Plane Motion Practice Thread: On Plane Motion Practice View Single Post #76 12-01-2012, 04:37 PM MizunoJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 719 Originally Posted by Daryl You're trying to not understand. I don't know why unless you have a chip on your shoulder? TGM'ers are nice people. I Said: Maybe you don't understand the difference between traveling "Down plane" and traveling "Toward the Ground". It will help you understand if you stop thinking that moving toward the ground is "Down plane" and moving away from the ground is "Up Plane". I'll try to help: The Clubhead travels an Orbit and at some point on the Orbit the Leading Edge of the Clubface is Square to the Target Line, the Shaft at its correct Lie Angle and within a Plane perpendicular to the Target Line. This is called Low-Point Geometry and it is an Alignment, and not a specific Location until you designate one. Imagine the Circle (Orbit) on a Horizontal Plane (see illustration below). Imagine Swinging on a Horizontal Plane and you strike the ball when the Clubshaft is at Right Angles to the Target Line. The Clubhead keeps traveling Down Plane. When does Down Plane stop and Up Plane begin? Traveling Forward is Down Plane. "Capisce" Honestly, you can't be serious - can you? You said that the hands and club head are moving down plane at impact, which means according to your latest rationalization that even if the club head is moving upwards with respect to the ground, it is still traveling "down" plane. It would not be, it would be "on" plane and moving upward. The clubhead moves backward, upward, and inward on the BS, where upward means with respect to the ground. These are Homer's words(2-F, last paragraph). On the DS, the clubhead moves forward, downward, and outward to low point and then forward, upward and inward, where downward and upward are in reference to the ground. You are confusing Down Plane with On Plane. Now for the hands - the hands move "off" plane well before impact because Throwout commences before impact, and they follow the hand path - are we to assume by your reasoning that as they arc upward they are still going "down" the hand path even though they are moving upward from the ground? Forward is Down Plane only only until low point, that's what you need to "capische". MizunoJoe View Public Profile Send a private message to MizunoJoe Find all posts by MizunoJoe