LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Aligning the Clubface Thread: Aligning the Clubface View Single Post #90 08-25-2012, 11:12 PM Mike O Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oceanside CA Posts: 1,398 Originally Posted by MizunoJoe My intent was to ask "Is this correct or not", not to make any specific person look right or wrong. The statement "Hand Manipulation is accomplished at Impact Fix" is surely context independent. He didn't say "could be accomplished", but rather, "IS accomplished", which implies that any and all manipulation occurs at Impact Fix. After all this, I still don't know what Homer meant by Hand Manipulation, and it's hard to believe that doing something with the hands during the swing in order to alter club face alignment, is not Hand Manipulation. I would say that nothing is context independent - everything in reality is related to everything else or many, many things - everything has a certain context. I've defined Hand Manipulation earlier in this threasd and via that definition if one were to say that Hand Manipulation is only accomplished at impact fix then that would be incorrect. If one said that first Hand Manipulation requires one to identify the lead hand condition (For example Flat, Level and Vertical)and the corresponding clubface alignment intended for impact via impact fix AND then if one has some intent, focus, awareness to return to that lead hand location to control the clubface alignment at impact - then that would be correct and in fact would be a better definition of "Hand Manipulation" than my original definition - hence this will be the new definition that I give it. Now if the question in the original thread was - Is Hand Manipulation accomplished at Impact Fix or Adjusted address? Then an appropriate answer in that context would be - Hand Manipulation is accomplished at Impact Fix. It's an appropriate answer in the context of the knowledge of the person asking the question. Is it a complete answer in the context of the broadest and fullest description of Hand Manipulation - NO. I didn't know what the question was, what the context of the thread was, etc. etc. - so the conservative approach was not to leap to conclusions. Hope that sheds some light on the subject - I do understand your post and I see your point. Well taken. __________________ Life Goal- Developing a new theory of movement based on Brain Science Interests - Dabbling with insanity Hobbies- Creating Quality Last edited by Mike O : 08-25-2012 at 11:21 PM. Mike O View Public Profile Send a private message to Mike O Find all posts by Mike O