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Originally Posted by Yoda
Is the Manipulated Hands Swing compromised? Not in the least.

Centrifugal Force drives the Clubhead and aligns the Clubshaft. The player aligns the Clubface based on the shot at hand and the Pattern Variations he employs.

"The Mechanics of Golf is the production and manipulation of the Line of Compression." [Italics by Yoda.]

-- Homer Kelley (2-0)

And remember...

The 'manipulation' of the Clubface occurs prior to Start Up. There is no manipulation of the Clubface during the Stroke. So, align the Clubface as necessary when taking the Grip in its 'Fix' alignments, then...

Return the Left Hand to its Flat, Level and Vertical alignment at Impact.

The Clubface will respond accordingly.
Yes! Yes! Yes! The key to the Manipulated Hands Swinger is the FLAT LEVEL VERTICAL!

The Manipulated Hands Swinger is ONLY manipulating WHERE his FLAT LEVEL VERTICAL LEFT WRIST AT IMPACT OCURRS. In otherwords back in the stance for a Hook or up in the stance for a Fade. The grip of the club is rotated to achieve a square clubface.

I thought the Manipulated Hands Swinger physically DID something with his hands. But he does not . . . He just determines the point in the stance at which he will achieve Impact with his Flat Level and Vertical Left Wrist. And adjusts the clubface as the Hitter does.

For the “True” Hitter, Moving the Ball back (Hook alignment) or forward (Slice alignment) – always with the Clubface aligned to the Target Line per 2-J-1 – gives straightaway initial direction (2-B). Opening the Clubface (Slice Grip) or Closing the Clubface (Hook Grip) at your normal Impact Fix, produces Pushed Slices and Pulled Hooks and so require a compensating Target Line adjustment to make it square to the changed Clubface alignment.
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09-11-2006, 02:11 PM
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Yep - mark me down as a manipulated hands swinger - but I agree 100% with Leo - it should be manipulated grip swinger.

If you let impact fix and the flying wedges be your guide when you grip the club, you can fully utilize the true 'shot maker' differences in hinge action.
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09-11-2006, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by EdZ
Yep - mark me down as a manipulated hands swinger - but I agree 100% with Leo - it should be manipulated grip swinger.

If you let impact fix and the flying wedges be your guide when you grip the club, you can fully utilize the true 'shot maker' differences in hinge action.
But does Manipulated Hands Swinger have anything to do with changing Hinge Action? I think it is just about where you have your Left Wrist Flat Level and Vertical in relation to your ball position.
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10-19-2007, 07:41 AM
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Great discussion. How does the "aiming point" concept come into play with all of this?

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10-19-2007, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
But does Manipulated Hands Swinger have anything to do with changing Hinge Action? I think it is just about where you have your Left Wrist Flat Level and Vertical in relation to your ball position.

Since a pure swinger allows CF to align the clubhead and clubface, which would lead to horizontal hinging, then wouldn't a swinger employing Angled or Vertical Hinging be a manipulated hands swinger, by definition? It seems like it to me, but I'm not 100% sure.

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10-19-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigwill

Since a pure swinger allows CF to align the clubhead and clubface, which would lead to horizontal hinging, then wouldn't a swinger employing Angled or Vertical Hinging be a manipulated hands swinger, by definition? It seems like it to me, but I'm not 100% sure.
The true Swinger is limited to one Hinge Action (Horizontal) and one Ball Location (the Straightaway Flight Location unique to each Club from a given Lie). Any other Hinge Action or Ball Location demands Manipulated Hands procedures.

For those two reasons, especially Ball Location, Homer Kelley advised against the True Swing.
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