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When Swinging it's the right shoulder which is pushing on #1, which pushes on the left arm, which pulls the left shoulder, which pulls the shaft, and when the left arm blasts off, it's still pulling the shaft, so you should call it what it is, Swinging.

Joe no offence intended but how can pushing the left arm at the #1 pull the left shoulder around? Im trying to see that mechanically.

I do feel some #1pp when Swinging but Id say its the non accelerating thrust variety , a product of Extensor Action. It does load the #1pp during Startdown , the period of (Right) Shoulder Acceleration as the Left Shoulder takes out any slack in the left arm against the EA at the #1pp. Keeping me within the bounds of a three accumulator 4,2,3 swinging method.

Are you sure this isn't what you're really feeling , Joe?