LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Eldrick Picture..good?bad? depends? Thread: Eldrick Picture..good?bad? depends? View Single Post #29 12-07-2011, 12:42 PM 12 piece bucket Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Thomasville, NC Posts: 4,380 Originally Posted by JTillery Great question bucket. All we've ever heard is to hold angles, hold angles, hold angles. So when people see an illustration that could be described as a "held" angle, they love it. Truth is, Tiger isn't attempting to "hold" anything. He's preparing to knock the fire out of something. Athletically, he just ends up with angle that deep because, we'll, that's more ammo to knock the fire out of something with. That particular element just gets a lot of attention.....but what's the difference in it and a slightly different pivot with a little less angle for the average guy. (Not Tiger, he's already there) Understandably, we still need roll at least to some degree from that position to square the face, but most of the business left to do from that position would be the uncocking, the number two PA, which will be sending the club down. (Particularly if there is "bobbing" down then up). Wouldn't be much different than having a bit steeper plane angle, or a more forward pivot, but a little less angle. Now trust me, I understand that most players and all bad players have no lag, no lead, and bent left wrists before the balls off the face. I think because of this, that Tiger position is viewed as the anti hack, the anti throwaway, etc. Its also validated because almost all the good players get into a position at least more similar to that than left arm and shaft in line two feet before the ball. The deal though, is that zero of them are trying to get into that position. None of them are trying to hold angles. Even if they say so for a playing lessons for the pros or something on golf channel. Never crosses their minds in the real world. Its a product of proper physics, proper kinematic sequences. They just are able to create speed and have it max out where the ball sits. A still photo of what appears to be retained angle is just the obvious result, but never ever the goal. Are we sure Eldrick isn't being taught this? Some cats saying "that's a CP cut"....whatever that means..... __________________ Aloha Mr. Hand Behold my hands; reach hither thy hand 12 piece bucket View Public Profile Send a private message to 12 piece bucket Find all posts by 12 piece bucket