LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Got Rhythm? Thread: Got Rhythm? View Single Post #63 01-16-2011, 02:19 AM Bagger Lance Administrator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,326 Originally Posted by BerntR Technical reasoning: If they move at the same RPM and the clubshaft is twice as long as the left arm, the clubhead speed would be 3 times as fast as the hands speed - all due to increased swing radius. With a hand speed of 15 MPH that gives you a club head speed of 45 MPH. A shaft that is twice as long as your arm is probably an illegal driver so the 45 MPH figure can safely be regarded as a theoretical maximum.Now, if the club head speed really is 100 MPH, you have at least 55 MPH that aren't yet accounted for. You need higher RPM to explain it. A more golf like explanation: You don't have to be a mechanical engineer to get this. Remember that between 9 and 3 (as in a 9-3 drill), the left arm goes from parallel to parallel (to the plane line) while the club shaft goes from vertical to vertical. Parallel to parallel means that the left arm rotates 180 degrees. Vertical to vertical means that the club shaft rotates 360 degrees. So in average for the 9-3 motion, the shaft has twice as high RPM as the left arm from 9-3. If you account for a late release here, we are certainly talking about a much higher RPM difference through impact. Only if you zero accumulator #2 and #3 (or freeze them) will you get the same RPM for arm and club shaft. I guess some does that with the putter but that would be the only shot where this is possible. If I understand correctly, you are differentiating arm/hand RPM from clubhead RPM. Viewed as separate entities, the clubhead has much greater travel and speed than arms/hands. The difference: As the left arm flying wedge, clubhead/shaft, left wrist, and arm are combined into a three sided triangle. The left arm flying wedge is viewed as a dynamic unit in motion. One corner is left shoulder, the other corner is left wristcock, and the third corner is clubhead. Viewed as a wedged shaped triangle the entire unit travels at the same RPM from the shoulder, even though two sides of the triangle nearly come together or combine with the third side momentarily if accumulator 2 & 3 are zeroed out at low point. So while in motion, there is clubhead overtaking, i.e. one side of the triangle between clubhead and shoulder lengthens, but the overall wedge rotates at the same RPM speed. It is a two dimensional flying wedge set on the plane of the left wristcock motion. If it goes 3D or ceases to be a triangle due to clubhead throwaway, then rhythm has been lost. I wish we had an animation artist around to show this. __________________ Bagger 1-H "Because of questions of all kinds, reams of additional detail must be made available - but separately, and probably endlessly." Homer Kelly Bagger Lance View Public Profile Send a private message to Bagger Lance Find all posts by Bagger Lance