LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Hogan Right Shoulder Motion Elbow Plane Hitter Thread: Hogan Right Shoulder Motion Elbow Plane Hitter View Single Post #96 12-25-2010, 08:25 AM Daryl Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,521 Originally Posted by BerntR I know you're not complaining about compensations. But you still believe they need to be there. It must be because you haven't been able to make the best out of an EP impact alignment for yourself. My experience with the elbow plane is 100% the opposite of what you're saying. I get more lag pressure, I sustain the lag pressure longer, I basically get the same swing speed. We are not having a meeting of the minds although I think we agree on almost everything. It doesn't seem that way sometimes. This is one of those times. Of course I think compensations are necessary. The truth according to what I've seen is that most players Improve because they apply the correct compensation for a personally preferred procedure or alignment. It's rare to find a player improve by eliminating compensations. I've worked my whole life toward that goal, and I've paid the price along the way by not improving until I had acquired "Alignment" knowledge. I don't have a problem with the Elbow Plane except that you can't trace the Plane Line until the Plane Shift and you don't have On-Plane Right Shoulder support. Besides, the best golfers in the world have found compensations for those things. Please bear with me during the following example. If a Player uses a little Extensor Action with a Right Forearm Take-away procedure, he will Cock his Left Wrist by Bending his Right Elbow or raising his Arms, without cocking his Right Wrist. If a Player chooses not to use the Right Forearm Take-away procedure, he'll need to Cock the Left Wrist another way (compensation). If a Player Cocks his Right Wrist, then he'll need to apply a compensation to Uncock the Right Wrist. __________________ Daryl Last edited by Daryl : 12-25-2010 at 08:41 AM. Daryl View Public Profile Send a private message to Daryl Find all posts by Daryl