[Daryl]

This thread is getting a little weird.

I think that 12 Pc. wants to know if a level-ish Downstroke shoulder turn has a greater influence on the player "going left" to stay On-Plane after Impact more than something else. In other words, he is wondering if an On-Plane Downstroke Right shoulder contributes to "Swinging out to Right Field"; defined as the Clubhead and Shaft rising above Plane after Impact.

That...is sooo Pivot Controlled Hands.

Although a Flat Right Shoulder Downstroke rotation WILL cause the Hands to "fire Left" after Impact, it does so at the expense of needing compensations for other critical Alignments.

Such As: Needing, a Sweep or Random Sweep Release to FORCE the Right Forearm back to its Impact Fix Angle of Approach BEFORE the Right Shoulder FORCES the Right Forearm to become to high at Impact which is a Hackers over the Top move. Certainly this can be adjusted to eventually become a fine Golf Swing.

But really now; do we need another compensation? Rather than forcing the Hands and Right Forearm to comply with an off-Plane Right Shoulder, it makes more sense if we train the Right Shoulder comply and assist in achieving the critical Right Forearm Impact Alignment?

The Club won't swing above plane if the Player has "Rhythm". Hinging....through the Impact Interval will allow the Clubhead and Shaft to remain On-Plane until the Finish Swivel.

Hinging is easy to perform on the Elbow Plane (because of the large pulley). If you want to try something a bit more challenging, then use the TSP (because of the infinitesimally small Pulley when using a Snap Release).