LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Hogan Right Shoulder Motion Elbow Plane Hitter Thread: Hogan Right Shoulder Motion Elbow Plane Hitter View Single Post #71 12-24-2010, 01:08 AM O.B.Left Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,433 Thanks for the photos of Cink , Buck. That first frame looks like a TSP to my eyes. Like his Right Shoulder is taking the Hands and clubshaft down "a" TSP. A steep one though, sort of like Jacks. Nothing like Hogan's flattish TSP angle. The second frame when you look at the shaft angle it is super steep. No longer pointing at the Turned Shoulder position almost Turning Shoulder. But there's some shaft droop there so if you drew a line from the sweetspot to the #3 pp then maybe the Sweetspot Plane, the real Plane so to speak, is pointing more towards the Turned position of the Right Shoulder. Its a stretch I know....either that or he's shifted up to higher plane from the TSP. Assuming he didnt shift up we're looking at a Single shift, no shift on the plane angle from Top to impact. Elbow then TSP at Top then down the TSP .......something Homer would have preferred to a Double Shift actually.......in the later editions.... You know the crazy thing is that Homer changed his ideas about the Elbow Plane as the editions progressed but to my mind didnt change some of the surrounding references to Elbow Plane. You know how he talks about starting the club back on the shaft and elbow plane...........in the audio tapes he throws that one out the window. Forget the shaft plane in startup actually you could say forget about the shaft laying on the inclined plane even.....though its part of 1-L ......he's talking clubhead plane (as opposed to shaft or LCOG) moving on the TSP up and down , Zero Shift. Dont hear about that too much...... He prioritized things with not shifting ranking higher than any benefit to the Elbow Plane or the Shaft laying flat on the Inclined Plane. As I hear him anyways. Not that you dont options of course , lots and lots of them. Trillions of useful options, multiple shifts included. Maybe I heard wrong though ........I dunno. Last edited by O.B.Left : 12-24-2010 at 01:10 AM. O.B.Left View Public Profile Send a private message to O.B.Left Find all posts by O.B.Left