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Old 11-30-2010, 08:59 PM
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Why Moe's swing and Stack and Tilt are the same for me.
Originally Posted by innercityteacher View Post
Just questions watching the Youtube "Celebration Tapes."














with "The Hammer Man"



Why I'm interested.

I'll see Yoda in April and I'll have a long list of questions. Once he answers two, I'm sure the rest will be logically deduced and I'll feel like an idiot.

But what Yoda and LBG golf have shown me is the bio-mechanical logic of Plane - based golf. So, every good swing (effective swing) should be a different perspective on the same paradigm, with various compensations (fewer are better).

So hello Mr. Norman! Notes to myself:

1) I've used his swing to shoot an 84 in competition on a course I never saw before and it should've been sub 80 with a little local knowledge.

2) My version of Moe's swing really hits down on the ball and that is so effective.

3) My FBRW holds my whole left hand and is firm while being pulled by the Pivot.

4) Due to some geometry I haven't deduced, Moe's backswing is very effective when hands are shoulder high with EA and RFT or a very slow backward lag to end (shoulders) and a feeling of my front knee being very flexed and the downswing and pull through governed by that strong forward Pivot by straightening that front leg. Half backswing + Full Pivot =250 yard straight drive and solid straight contact with all other clubs being hit down including driver.

5) A wider closed stance makes staying on plane in the downswing easy. The more my front knee bends, the more powerful the Pivot and the straighter and further I hit every club. Norman shot a 60 when he was 65. I'm 52 and will settle for a 65 several times each year until I am 70. : )

6) Stable head over back knee or somewhere allows for full extension and power.

More to come.
By lining up in a closed stance or in S&T, all my weight, just about, is on my left and shorter leg. Both swings help me compress the heck out of the ball! As a matter of fact, any Swing or Hit let's me compress the ball like crazy as long as I get all my weight or keep all my weight on my front side! That is why a "half swing" is much more effective for me than a full swing. Once my weight gets to my right side, it is almost impossible to reverse the flow of weight back to my left side in a short amount of time. Both swings start out as being on the Turned Shoulder Plane.

When I swing back until I feel my weight on the inside of my right foot or about to my shoulder, the shot is long and straight.

Maybe I'll always be at a disadvantage not being able to smoothly flow my weight from my back foot to my forward foot? But what if....I started with all my weight on my back/longer leg? Then, I could bump my back hip forward and all that weight would flow "downhill" into the ball. Hmmm...

More investigation necessary. Back when I started TGM, I got some incredible distances and pro ball flights from using a punch stroke where my arms came below my shoulder and with a very FBRW, I just pulverized the ball! Time to revisit everything except a FBRW/FLW!

I'm liking winter more, now.

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