LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Drag the Pit Bull! Thread: Drag the Pit Bull! View Single Post #17 09-27-2010, 06:13 PM Yoda Administrator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 10,681 Words Matter Originally Posted by airair You showed the total motion from these great players. But Yoda showed the basic motion. I didn't know that so much was going on at this first stage. There is a misunderstanding here, and it is due solely to terminology. This was a personal video shot several years ago for a specific purpose. Namely, to offer a solution to an injured player (Brian Watts). It was never intended to be posted here. It is here only because of Pluto! I made no reference to TGM. In fact, the movements shown have their origin in Bob MacDonald (Golf / 1927), not TGM. Within the context of my video message to my player, I stand by my statement in the video that the combined pivot and arm swing constitute the 'basic motion' of the stroke -- its "fundamental nature" -- knowing full well that a strict TGM definition would label the degree of motion as Second Stage (Acquired) or even Third Stage (Total). Your confusion does make an important point: What we call things matters. If we can't agree on what our words mean, what chance do we have communicate? __________________ Yoda Yoda View Public Profile Send a private message to Yoda Visit Yoda's homepage! Find all posts by Yoda