LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Hitters Thread: Hitters View Single Post #4 09-12-2010, 06:58 PM innercityteacher Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,900 Hey OB, this is an attemp to follow a thread for a change......wow! Originally Posted by O.B.Left Sometimes it kind of jumps out at you but for some guys its less evident visually. I tape my own swing and unless I send signals to the camera or something I dont know myself what the heck Im looking at. Could be Hitting vs Swinging or a particular Release Trigger. Take a look at Lynns video where he's showing a guy Hitting vs Swinging ..........looks pretty similar doesnt it? Now he does Drag Load when Hitting I'd say. So he's Drag then Drive which makes it all the more difficult to discern. For me anyways Hitting vs Swinging is the difference between a Right Arm Throw and a Left Wrist Throw. Either way the Right Arm is extending through the shot. In the former, Hitting its an "active" extension like throwing a ball side arm. In the latter, swinging, the arm extends in much the same manner (for me, some guys have more of a pitch elbow than I do) but the right extension is "passive" . Its just along for the ride so to speak as CF throws it out. Thats how I see anyways. Some guys think Moe was Hitter , he did appear to "actively" extend his right arm ........there was a golfer who got to both arms straight. But I dont think he was in fact, given what he said: that he was left handed , that he pulled hard with his left side, that the right side was "just along for the ride" etc . And of course the physics of Swinging revealed itself in his tell tale Horizontal Hinging. The physics is different after all . With different vectors to the Thrust even. Which is why you shouldnt do both at the same time. I think Both Arms Straight through and past impact ought to be highlighted more and then both hitting and swinging can be described with their goal in view, as roads to the proper finish. The funny thing about Moe or lots of pros is that if you listen and read carefully enough (just reminding not criticizing) they use lots of terms in lots of ways without trying to be technically precise or TGM like. Air, hi! If I may, because of the essential nature of the Pivot, which I have been very frightened of because of my artificial hip and leg shortage (yes, I misplaced one : > ), I was really trying to perfect a "Pivotless" strike. It can't be done with a longer stick. You just run out of right arm and collapse the left. Your left hand will always "pull" because your Pivot is always initially engaged. I tried just pulling with my left hand and arm and not trying to Pivot and it works. My shorter front leg actually gives me sort of a benefit. But that is only possible for a couple of rounds and there are difficulties. I shot an 83 and an 82 with that method and I suppose you could shoot par if you are careful. I think some pros do. By comparison, when Pivoting using the "Marching" exercises, my Pivot really flung my club vigorously! I had backed off some of my heavier Extensor Action, but my Pivot forced me to beef it up! My left hand was really pulling and all my options were apparent as the club and Sweet Spot flowed to finish. The first "March" really throws everything to the Top and the forward "March" places a slow motion stretch on all components. The Sequencing takes awhile to work itself out giving a person plenty of time to decide which components to use. I was pleased to simply get the ball position right, use EA, and keep my head down to watch the blurring strike. Not getting the ball position correct, cost me considerable strokes per 18, as did club selection. YBGF __________________ HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day! Last edited by innercityteacher : 09-13-2010 at 12:15 PM. innercityteacher View Public Profile Send a private message to innercityteacher Find all posts by innercityteacher