[innercityteacher]

You have to get into the geometry of chapter 2 . It aint easy but its worth the effort.

The clubhead does approach the ball from the inside , assuming the ball is positioned back of low point. Its not a optical illusion or anything it literally does as it comes down the slanted, Inclined Plane. Down and OUt towards the base line. It should feel like this too. So yes, to feel like you are swinging straight line towards the target.......Steering in the book.......is to bend the plane line to the left.

Contrary to what the golf magazines at the time were saying (and the PGA) Homer thought that the ball started at right angles to the club face at Separation. That the ball curved in accordance with any divergence between face angle and club head path. The opposite of what we thought , but now confirmed by Track man etc etc.

So.....if your hooks are starting down the line and then hooking left like you say .........your face is square at Separation and your club head path is Cross-line , bent to the right. Pretty close to being good. But if you flip the face over you've got more work to do, it'll take you longer to fix. But join the club , its the golfers affliction.

Hi OB and everyone. I have been following this discussion and I tried to explain the "down, out, and forward" to myself by ignoring the frozen, bent right wrist (FBRW) and concentrating on tracing the baseline of the plane with only my forearm. If I ignore the FBRW, I can really see the baseline of the plane past Impact Fix sighting down my right forearm.

In my understanding of TGM, as long as my FBRW is rock solid, given an Impact Fix stance, any Pivot and thrust along the plane will result in a "down, out, and forward" strike applied by the FBRW. Is that right? Is that how a pro or talented golfer manages so much more compression? They sight down the right forearm well ahead of the ball and keep driving down?

If that is a correct understanding, that would explain why a properly FBRW, used with say, a 3 wood, would not allow for a "Punch Basic" stroke since the 3 wood's length would not allow the FBRW to ever hit the ball before the arm drove all the way down (lacking a Pivot).

What I'm trying to gauge, OB, is a standardization of distance and clubs. In a funny way, the end of the "swing" might not be as important as where Both Arms Straight occurs. I'm also concerned as to my lack of distance and divots. I have a funny feeling as to their one-to-one correspondence.

Yesterday, on my way to my first 80 and the initiation of the CGCBF ($1, I "forced" a strong sand iron to a 95 yard carry over water (instead of the usual 80 yard carry and 10 yards of roll). I then "forced" a 6 iron to a 185 yards of carry vs. the usual 170 yards of carry and roll. In both cases, I did not really get much of a divot but just sighted further ahead down the right arm and along the target line. I made sure my FBRW was rock solid throughoutt the round and really Pivoted strongly.

Thanks in advance!

Patrick