LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Thrust Relative to Plane Thread: Thrust Relative to Plane View Single Post #19 08-19-2010, 01:34 PM O.B.Left Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,433 Originally Posted by gmbtempe This is the shaft, elbow and TSP. My club started down the TSP to this point, you can see the clubhead is on the elbow plane and it continues down to just below impact. Thats why the right elbow position was interesting to me from the original post. Here's my 2 cents Canadian, 1.5 U.S. , 2 Australian. -shifting to, from the TSP to the Elbow Plane is not a bad thing. Maybe normal, so to speak. You could argue the smaller the shift the better but thats another discussion for another day. -the Sweet Spot Plane is what really needs to travel the Inclined Plane although the shaft is a handy reference though not quite correct. This Sweet Spot Plane is defined by your #3 pp and the sweetspot on the clubface, very basically. A line running straight from one to the other and beyond. -your #3pp is on the TSP. -your face is not. The extension of the Sweetspot Plane points outside the Base Line, Plane Line. Meaning you're under the Plane. -your Right Forearm Flying Wedge is good. Its "on the table" see Lynns photos of him laying his forearm and shaft on a table top. The plane of the RFFW is the plane of the Right WRist Bend. -What about your Left ARm Flying Wedge? What would your left wrist look like if? Using your RFFW you manipulated the Sweetspot Plane , or clubshaft if you prefer so it pointed at the Plane Line? You'd need to keep the Plane of the RFFW in tact which'd require a repositioning of the whole RFFW , a change in right elbow position. Would there be a little bend to the left wrist? -I suspect you have loaded with a slightly off plane left hand wrist cock. The plane of the LAFW is the plane of the left hand wrist cock, a pure vertical deal. I suspect a little horizontal left wrist motion in there. Which if taken down plane from Top to where you are near Release will look just like this photo. Its a common problem especially for guys who seek to have a literally flat left wrist instead of a "geometrically flat" left wrist. Imagine a thin piece of tape running up the top of the clubshaft and a second piece of tape running up the top of your left arm (top here will be left hand grip type dependent). Imagine cocking the club straight up Vertically so the two tape lines stay inline on the same vertical plane. What happens to your Left Wrist? It probably isnt literally flat but a little bent, cupped .........as it should be. Geometrically flat. If the RFFW lays on table top, the LAFW lays flat against a wall. 90 degrees to each other. One along the top of the shaft the other along the aft. If you are using a Right Forearm Takeaway it may require a slightly different arm motion to load like this. If this seems like this helps, pm me , I have spent a lot of time fighting this move personally. The key is to figure out what causes the off plane loading. Somewhere there is a false feel that needs to be changed. For me it was the feel of max'ing out the Right Hand bend.....a false feel that arched my left wrist and took me under the plane. An RFT that Fans but doesnt Bend UP can do it too. A right elbow position that isnt aligned at Top can do it. etc etc. O.B.Left View Public Profile Send a private message to O.B.Left Find all posts by O.B.Left