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Thanks, OB. This is very interesting. Let me try out my understanding of geometry on these insights of yours."Orbit," OB, is a great term. Let me change the term to "trajectory" to cover my question. The orbit or trajectory of the clubhead coming from an underhanded toss must be at a less severe angle than a punch elbow (unless a person is playing a particular low flying shot). In other words, the trajectory of a traced swing impacts the golf ball at a closer to horizontal direction than a punch or pitch motion. Those motions involve a trajectory that both horizontally and vertically compresses the ball in a different type of equal and opposite reactions to that type of contact.

Ok. Got you. Sorry. Words, they some times fail us in that when we think we are talking about the same thing , we often arent. For this reason Homer really wanted us to stick to his definitions lest we enter the tower of babble. You'd be crazy to take the book of riddles into the tower of babble wouldnt you? Its hard enough to comprehend or discuss already.

So to bring this into Homer vocabulary , we must adhere to Geometry of the Circle. Center, Radius, Circumference , chords, tangents etc. The Circle itself represents the clubhead's orbit or Line of flight and lies on the Inclined Plane. It is two dimensional! It must be both to lie flat on a plane and for the Radius (the clubshaft or sweetspot plane more correctly ) to point at a Straight Line Base Line. Which it must. Steering misdirects the clubhead towards the target, making the Orbit 3 dimensional , bending the plane line. Like the circling satellite , once the orbit is disturbed , disaster awaits. I think your great results , after getting to Both Arms Straight could very well be the product of an undisturbed, 2 dimensional orbit. Straight line plan line. One of the Three Imperatives, check it off. To go all the way down plane to Low Point, to keep on thrusting towards the plane line till the right arm is straight makes Steering the clubhead anyways, impossible. Steering the clubhead when viewed on the Geometry of the Circle shows the clubhead going down plane and therefore out given any angle to the Inclined Plane but then veering prematurely along a chord, a Target Line prior to low point. The club stops going down and therefor out and shallows out early, ruining Three Dimensional Impact. Down , OUt and Forward. False logic, Linear force 2-C-0 raises its ugly , "seems like it should work" head, again.

I dream of a golf world where for decades hackers the world over had cried "Keep your clubhead going down" instead of the usual free advice.

I like your "trajectory" observations. This relates to the Plane Angle, The Angle of Attack see 2-C-1 #2B and also the Divergent Vectors of 2-N-1. Generally speaking more pivot means more Horizontal , turning motion. Better suited to Tracing, ARc of Approach etc. The Right Arm itself is subject to the forces of the coming on stream pivot and so it must adjust to maintain its on the inclined plane Alignment and the ability to Trace. See Pivot in the Glossary. This is Hands to Pivot to my mind as opposed to an idea that the Hands must proceed the pivot sequentially or something. They just direct thats all. Like raising a coffee to your mouth while the taxi driver takes a corner at high speed. The hands adjust quite nicely despite the introduction of forces with contrary vectors. The Hands net out on plane. Unless the forces are too much and too divergent, then you have a mess to clean up. In the cab or on the course. Bent Plane Line or coffee on your dress shirt.


The Neeman video is great. 12-5-0 comes alive and unplugged at one point there too. When you said linear and punch I thought you were talking hitting chipping, Push Basic, lawn mower cord pulling, elbow sawing or whatever. Which is not on display in that particular video. No Sir. Not displayed in any video by Yoda personally, I dont believe. Trying to remember. Its a catalogues procedure , for short shots , not long. Glad to hear you are fanning and bending your right arm then. You avoided my Hitting stumbling block.

Id say you can "punch" a shot either Hitting or Swinging although we commonly associate it with Hitting. If you feel better punching your way around the course then go for it. To me its sort of a more driving, stacatto, compact motion normally with the ball played back a tad , which given the geometry of the circle means there'll be more turf taken post impact as you make it all the way down to low point. More inside out to the clubheads Delivery Line then too. Trevino comes to mind. He Angled Hinged it too. Normally fades resulting with a push tendency. Need to rotate the clubface in the grip maybe. If it seems like you are Covering a straight line out to right field dont get gun shy, you're probably Hitting using the Angle of Approach. A true cross line stroke for a straight shot. 2-J-3 But dont read that or you'll go insane. Wait a bit.

You've been at TGM for what like a month or two now? Wow.