[BerntR]

I forgot about the address position. That is important. You have to be more handsy from adjusted address than from fix. But that should be more of a fanning motion than a cocking motion.

I am not 100% TGM in my takeaway and I don't know if I'll ever be. That is one of the reasons I say quiet right wrist and not frozen.

But nevertheless, quiet/frozen right wrist works very well as a key in the back stroke.