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Interesting EdZ,

Glad you bring this up.

Im thinking that if the clubhead actually does stay outside the hands ..........the clubshafts butt end will not point at the plane line on either side of the ball. Which would break a bunch of 1-L's wouldnt it? 1-L-18 and 1-L-5 certainly.

Ive been seeing some nationally ranked amateurs up here, taking full ish practice swings with a dowel stuck in the butt end of the club. In this way the clubhead does stay outside the hands in the manner you mention but only on the through swing. So they are Plane Line compliant in TGM terms going back but not going through, where the butt end points to the ground behind the golfer. Mark Evershead style maybe. No Release Swivel or turning of the back of the Left Hand back onto the Inclined Plane after the club switches ends post Follow Through but a fully maintained bend to the Right Hand. Sean Foley who is pals with Evershead might be one who teaches this, not 100% sure. Evershead studied under Tom Tomassello, did he talk about this stuff?

Its an interesting concept but its not a clubshaft plane literally, in that the entire motion of the Clubshaft does not lie on a flat plane throughout and planes are flat by definition. A bent plane is not a plane anymore right. Although Homer himself defined a non clubshaft plane, a clubhead only plane of motion for the Angle of Approach. I dunno, that is probably a totally unrelated concept. And a can of worms, visually equivalent worms though.

We've got some friends right here on this board who teach the dowel in the shaft drill. Not sure how literally they take it when really hitting? Good guys all and super players too. Maybe they can share their findings with us.

We're in the Lab after all. Go nuts. Ill have to tell you about my intentionally bent left wrist shot sometime. Best done with zero structure and throwaway. Got it from Ernie Els even. Its in his old short game book actually.