[KevCarter]

It might seem like the same, but there is an important difference between using the knee, and using the hips.

If you start with the knee, it sets the right shoulder down plane. If you start with the hip, the right shoulder very often comes out over plane.

DG - I can't speak for Snead, but in my case when I really load #4 properly, #2 is also loaded, very strongly and it can 'feel' like a pull.

Guys,

Isn't what EdZ is saying about knees then hips as a down stroke sequence exactly what Homer tells us in 6-M-1?

The “Centers” of the Stroke start with the Feet or the employeed Component nearest to the feet in the following order: Knees, Hips, Shoulders, arms, Right Elbow, Left Wristcock and/or Left Hand Rotation. For maximum Power, the position of must be taken with that will allow Delay of the Release until all Components, except the Right Foot and Right Shoulder, have reached, or passed the Line-of-Site-to-the-Ball per 6-B-1-C. Then the Accumulators must move very rapidly toward their “In-Line” Position. But none should actually arrive (lose all their Lag and Drag until well after Impact. Also see 6-H-0.

Maybe I'm just stating the obvious and have misunderstood the conversation?

Thanks all, I really appreciate the insight you are ALL providing!

Kevin