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yes there are similarities with those motions of the vertical line of muscular effort on a vertical plane and inclined plane but im not trying to point out the similarities of those two similar pulling motions on different planes. for this motion it is not a similarity to the chopping wood it IS that motion its a VERTICAl plane of motion NOT an inclined plane, it becomes inclined because the pivot imparts the aroundward motion and the arms impart a vertical motion, when synched up properly it becomes inclined. this is a different plane of swinging, you are not pulling along an inclined plane you are pulling and raising on a definite vertical only plane, single left wrist action while simultaneously the pivot is imparting a horizontal-ish plane or at least a very flat inclined plane, put two completely different motions together and you get what i see as a 'body swivel'. this might be the only motion where bobbing might actually be a power move